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Turkish newspaper says 7000 Turkish Cypriots killed 63-74

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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Mar 20, 2007 4:53 pm

Piratis wrote:So give me the proof that 100s of TCs got killed in an intercommunal conflict after 1968 and before the Turkish invasion of 1974. We saw your list already. Does your propaganda create multiple lists to match every argument and lie you want to say maybe?

What I say my friend is correct and the only ones that deny them are those that are trying to create stories and use tiny and selective parts of the past to excuse their massive crimes and illegalities of today.

Another question: Do you also have lists with the 1000s of GCs that you killed? Or list with their names didn't serve your propaganda as they would make your lists seem too short in comparison?


The claim was that not 1 TC died in the period 1968 to 1974 is this the case??? time to accept the lies, own up and apologise.
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Postby GAVCARoCOM » Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:00 pm

Piratis wrote:So give me the proof that 100s of TCs got killed in an intercommunal conflict after 1968 and before the Turkish invasion of 1974. We saw your list already. Does your propaganda create multiple lists to match every argument and lie you want to say maybe?

What I say my friend is correct and the only ones that deny them are those that are trying to create stories and use tiny and selective parts of the past to excuse their massive crimes and illegalities of today.

Another question: Do you also have lists with the 1000s of GCs that you killed? Or list with their names didn't serve your propaganda as they would make your lists seem too short in comparison?


GREEK JUNTA GRIVAS Killed them not us . And Turkey saved your ass as well. I will find the full list for you if you really wondering.
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Postby GAVCARoCOM » Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:03 pm

GAVCARoCOM wrote:DAILY MAIL REPORTER RENE MAC COLL AND DANIEL MCCEARCHIED REPORTED FROM NICOSIA DECEMBER 1963 THE FOLLOWING."WE WENT TONIGHT INTO THE SEALED OFF TURKISH QUATER OF NICOSIA IN WHICH 200 TO 300 PEOPLE HAD BEEN SLAUGHTERD IN THE LAST FIVE DAYS. WE ARE THE FIRST WESTERN REPORTERS THERE AND WE HAVE SEEN SIGHTS TOO FRIGHTFULL TO BE DESCRIBED IN PRINT AND HORRORS SO EXTREME THAT PEOPLE SEEMED STUNDED BEYOND TEARS AND REDUCED HYSTERICAL AND MIRTLESS GIGGLE THAT IS MORE TERRIBLE THAN TEARS.
ARCHBISHOP MAKARIOS IN A SPEECH AT PANAYIA VILLAGE ON 4 SEPTEMBER 1962 SAID "UNLESS THIS SMALL TURKISH COMMUNITY FORMING A PART OF THE TURKISH RACE WHICH HAS BEEN THE TERRIBLE ENEMY OF HELLENISM IS EXPELLED, THE DUTY OF THE HEROES OF EOKA CAN NEVER BE CONSIDERED AS TERMINATED."
THE SECRETARY GENERALS REPORT TO THE SECURITY COUNCIL (S/5764 PAGE 29, PARA. 93, OF 15 JUNE 1964) REFUGEE CAMPS IN NICOSIA, AROUND NICOSIA THERE EXIST THREE REFUGEE CAMPS WHERE 1,500 TURKISH CYPRIOTS ARE LIVING IN TENTS. OVER HALF OF THEM ARE CHILDREN AND THERE IS A GREAT CONCERN ABOUT THEIR HEALTH DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS WHEN THE HEAT WILL CAUSE DEHYDRATION, PARTICULARLY IN THE VERY YOUNG AND OLD."
SECURITY COUNCIL REPORT (S/5950/ADD. 2) PAGE 2, PARA. 4 ON THE PLIGHT OF TURKISH CYPRIOT REFUGEES 1964:"MANY OF THE 600 REFUGEES WHO HAD COME TO KOKKINA FROM NEIGHBOURING LOCALITIES WERE LIVING IN CAVES UNDER SUB-NORMAL CONDITIONS WHICH MIGHT PRESENT A HEALTH HAZARD IN WINTER".
THE TIMES OF LONDON REPORTED JULY 1974 "THOUSANDS OF TURKISH CYPRIOTS WERE TAKEN HOSTAGE AFTER INVASION OF CYPRUS, TURKISH WOMEN WERE RAPED, CHILDREN WERE SHOT IN THE STREET AND THE TURKISH QUATER OF LIMASSOL WAS BURNT OUT BY THE GREEK NATIONAL GAURD".
JEAN NEUVECELLE OF FRANCE SOIT REPORTED THE FOLLOWING: IN THE VILLAGES AROUND FAMAGUSTA THE GREEK NATIONAL GAURD HAVE DISPLAYED UNSURPASSED EXAMPLES OF SAVAGERY, ENTERING TURKISH HOMES, THEY RUTHLESSLY RAINED BULLETS ON WOMEN AND CHILDREN, THEY CUT THE THROATS OF MANY TURKS, ROUNDING UP TURKISH WOMEN THEY RAPED THEM ALL. THE GREEKS BURNED TURKISH MOSQUES AND SET FIRE TO TURKISH HOMES, DEFENSELESS TURKISH VILLAGERS, WHO HAVE NO WEAPONS, LIVE IN AN ATMOSPHERE OF TERROR.



Explain me this one Piratis ??????
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Postby BirKibrisli » Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:06 pm

GAVCARoCOM wrote:I dont hate GCs , but as everybody knows what you say its not correct . And we have the proof .
And TCs moved north between 1963-1968 .


Gavcar gardas...There was no "North" or "South" between 63-68.
So I have to ask you, where did these people come from and where did they go??? :wink:
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Postby Piratis » Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:07 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Piratis wrote:So give me the proof that 100s of TCs got killed in an intercommunal conflict after 1968 and before the Turkish invasion of 1974. We saw your list already. Does your propaganda create multiple lists to match every argument and lie you want to say maybe?

What I say my friend is correct and the only ones that deny them are those that are trying to create stories and use tiny and selective parts of the past to excuse their massive crimes and illegalities of today.

Another question: Do you also have lists with the 1000s of GCs that you killed? Or list with their names didn't serve your propaganda as they would make your lists seem too short in comparison?


The claim was that not 1 TC died in the period 1968 to 1974 is this the case??? time to accept the lies, own up and apologise.


Not 1 died in an intercommunal conflict, thats what I meant of course, not that no TC died in general or that no crime was committed in the whole country for a period of 8 years! That would be an impossible world record.

If there was a military conflict viewpoint, don't you think more than 3 people would die per year, seriously? Or maybe the war was made with water pistols?
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Postby Piratis » Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:09 pm

Explain me this one Piratis ??????


Several gross exaggerations, lots of lies, and a conflict where both sides had an equal amount of victims reported totally one sided. Satisfied?
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:15 pm

Birkibrisli wrote:
GAVCARoCOM wrote:I dont hate GCs , but as everybody knows what you say its not correct . And we have the proof .
And TCs moved north between 1963-1968 .


Gavcar gardas...There was no "North" or "South" between 63-68.
So I have to ask you, where did these people come from and where did they go??? :wink:


Gav is probably refering to the TC enclaves but he is seemingly uninformed on the details and I'm not prepared to do your propaganda Gav so stop bloody starting debates you can't finish or better still stick to the "general" section of the forum.
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Postby GAVCARoCOM » Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:21 pm

Birkibrisli wrote:
GAVCARoCOM wrote:I dont hate GCs , but as everybody knows what you say its not correct . And we have the proof .
And TCs moved north between 1963-1968 .


Gavcar gardas...There was no "North" or "South" between 63-68.
So I have to ask you, where did these people come from and where did they go??? :wink:



I knwo many people from south they moved to north . I get surprised that you dont know this. Mostly moved to sillura and kyrenia that time and Ledrapalace was still there and GCs didnt let TCs pass south Nicosia after 7pm . Also Green line start between 1963-74
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Postby BirKibrisli » Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:27 pm

GAVCARoCOM wrote:
Birkibrisli wrote:
GAVCARoCOM wrote:I dont hate GCs , but as everybody knows what you say its not correct . And we have the proof .
And TCs moved north between 1963-1968 .


Gavcar gardas...There was no "North" or "South" between 63-68.
So I have to ask you, where did these people come from and where did they go??? :wink:



I knwo many people from south they moved to north . I get surprised that you dont know this. Mostly moved to sillura and kyrenia that time and Ledrapalace was still there and GCs didnt let TCs pass south Nicosia after 7pm . Also Green line start between 1963-74


Do you mean to North Nicosia???Because North Nicosia within the walls,and a narrow corridor upto about Bogaz was the only large TC controlled enclave in then north of Cyprus those days...
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:21 pm

Piratis wrote:
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Piratis wrote:So give me the proof that 100s of TCs got killed in an intercommunal conflict after 1968 and before the Turkish invasion of 1974. We saw your list already. Does your propaganda create multiple lists to match every argument and lie you want to say maybe?

What I say my friend is correct and the only ones that deny them are those that are trying to create stories and use tiny and selective parts of the past to excuse their massive crimes and illegalities of today.

Another question: Do you also have lists with the 1000s of GCs that you killed? Or list with their names didn't serve your propaganda as they would make your lists seem too short in comparison?


The claim was that not 1 TC died in the period 1968 to 1974 is this the case??? time to accept the lies, own up and apologise.


Not 1 died in an intercommunal conflict, thats what I meant of course, not that no TC died in general or that no crime was committed in the whole country for a period of 8 years! That would be an impossible world record.

If there was a military conflict viewpoint, don't you think more than 3 people would die per year, seriously? Or maybe the war was made with water pistols?


Piratis the claim was by people on this forum and your ex eoka leader also stated this, that no TC was killed in that period, which is an outright lie, why is it so difficult to admit that it is not true and that people died on both sides..just admit you and other posters contort the truth to suit your goals.
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