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[Viewpoint]

ZAN exhibiting his racist views on his fellow Cypriots. What a tragic shame .

""""""I had the saddest day ever since I started posting on this forum or any other. I felt a weight on my shoulders that has left me bitter today. You were the cause of it because of your single-minded views on the Cyprus problem. I have been arguing so much with my own brother about the way he thinks and I believe now I owe him an apology. Although he says he does not hate the Greeks, he does not trust a single one of you. He told me time and time again that you guys will do any and I mean anything to get what you want. I have argued that he is wrong. We argued so much that we both refrain from doing so now so that we do not fall apart as brothers. You were my last resort on this argument and although my brother does not know about this, your backing of people like Piratis and Kifeas and all those others that are simply not listening to a word we are saying but instead are on this blind quest to get the Greek agenda to the fore, has finally shown me that my brother is right. If he is reading this.....A very big Sorry Bruv. """"""

Let me also take you up on what you consider to be my position as far as Piratis's views are concerned.
If Piratis or any one on this forum has visions of waging war against their fellow Cypriots , who they themselves are the victims of circumstances dictated by fanatics , then I will not associate with any such views since they contradict everything that I stand for. I stand for a united Cyprus to be achieved by peaceful means , by mutual respect in an atmosphere of good will and co-operation. I do not share views of those who think that if and when the balance of power changes , conflict will commence amongst our Cypriot people. I stand by a peaceful solution to our Island's problem. Pleas do not ask me to disassociate my self from views that I neither share nor have ever been associated with. I condemn all who post non constructive views likely to inflame and not reconcile.
I hope I have made my self clear and will not respond to ludicrous assumptions.

How on earth is above quote by zan being racist, since when did not trusting people become racist? its called mistrust noting more nothing less. You people have a way of twisting everything to suit your purpose and sod the rest.

[zan]

ZAN exhibiting his racist views on his fellow Cypriots. What a tragic shame .

""""""I had the saddest day ever since I started posting on this forum or any other. I felt a weight on my shoulders that has left me bitter today. You were the cause of it because of your single-minded views on the Cyprus problem. I have been arguing so much with my own brother about the way he thinks and I believe now I owe him an apology. Although he says he does not hate the Greeks, he does not trust a single one of you. He told me time and time again that you guys will do any and I mean anything to get what you want. I have argued that he is wrong. We argued so much that we both refrain from doing so now so that we do not fall apart as brothers. You were my last resort on this argument and although my brother does not know about this, your backing of people like Piratis and Kifeas and all those others that are simply not listening to a word we are saying but instead are on this blind quest to get the Greek agenda to the fore, has finally shown me that my brother is right. If he is reading this.....A very big Sorry Bruv. """"""

Let me also take you up on what you consider to be my position as far as Piratis's views are concerned.
If Piratis or any one on this forum has visions of waging war against their fellow Cypriots , who they themselves are the victims of circumstances dictated by fanatics , then I will not associate with any such views since they contradict everything that I stand for. I stand for a united Cyprus to be achieved by peaceful means , by mutual respect in an atmosphere of good will and co-operation. I do not share views of those who think that if and when the balance of power changes , conflict will commence amongst our Cypriot people. I stand by a peaceful solution to our Island's problem. Pleas do not ask me to disassociate my self from views that I neither share nor have ever been associated with. I condemn all who post non constructive views likely to inflame and not reconcile.
I hope I have made my self clear and will not respond to ludicrous assumptions.

How on earth is above quote by zan being racist, since when did not trusting people become racist? its called mistrust noting more nothing less. You people have a way of twisting everything to suit your purpose and sod the rest.

First we are bloody foreigners in our own country and now racists. The man tries to sell us faulty goods over and over again, as in the RoC, and does nothing to fix these items and then blames us again. That is why I asked you about these faulty goods Miltiades. As a businessman you are guilty of selling faulty goods and then when we complain you tell us we are not real customers anyway. The RoC has no guarantee papers. They have broken the statutory rights of everyone. Take the goods back and find an alternative supplier. Perhaps talking in business terms you might actually understand what we are saying.

[Viewpoint]

No problem Viewpoint, get the 100% of your rights and give us the 100% of ours.

So you see how upsetting is for you to discuss even half compromise from your rights? Why do you think we should do it then? Because you have big guns and you can force us?

Im not upset just trying to understand exactly what you are proposing.

So are you saying we return to the 1960 agreements now? you are getting very confusing.

In your BBF, 18% state to the TCs what will you do to the percentage if 5000 or more GCs want to live in the TC state? and that 260.000 TCs all want to move into the TC state as well?? gonna get pretty tight dont you think? Can you provide examples where the BBF states are determined according to % distribution?

So its ok for TCs to live under GC administration but not the other way around? why is that?

[Piratis]

No problem Viewpoint, get the 100% of your rights and give us the 100% of ours.

So you see how upsetting is for you to discuss even half compromise from your rights? Why do you think we should do it then? Because you have big guns and you can force us?

Im not upset just trying to understand exactly what you are proposing.

So are you saying we return to the 1960 agreements now? you are getting very confusing.

In your BBF, 18% state to the TCs what will you do to the percentage if 5000 or more GCs want to live in the TC state? and that 260.000 TCs all want to move into the TC state as well?? gonna get pretty tight dont you think? Can you provide examples where the BBF states are determined according to % distribution?

So its ok for TCs to live under GC administration but not the other way around? why is that?

260.000 TCs? Do you count every TC immigrant up to 4th generation anywhere in the world + the settlers in that figure?

Can you provide examples where the BBF states are determined according to % distribution?

Sure man, there are 100s of BBF states around the world What the hell are you talking about?

Any argument that you make about TC state to be bigger can be made for the GC state as well. 82%-18% is just what is fair.

As I told you if you don't like it don't accept it. You are not obligated to, as we are not obligated to accepted anything that you demand. Everybody gets the 100% of his rights and thats it.

What you are obligated to do though is to end the illegal occupation of Republic of Cyprus.

[Viewpoint]

No problem Viewpoint, get the 100% of your rights and give us the 100% of ours.

So you see how upsetting is for you to discuss even half compromise from your rights? Why do you think we should do it then? Because you have big guns and you can force us?

Im not upset just trying to understand exactly what you are proposing.

So are you saying we return to the 1960 agreements now? you are getting very confusing.

In your BBF, 18% state to the TCs what will you do to the percentage if 5000 or more GCs want to live in the TC state? and that 260.000 TCs all want to move into the TC state as well?? gonna get pretty tight dont you think? Can you provide examples where the BBF states are determined according to % distribution?

So its ok for TCs to live under GC administration but not the other way around? why is that?

260.000 TCs? Do you count every TC immigrant up to 4th generation anywhere in the world + the settlers in that figure?

Can you provide examples where the BBF states are determined according to % distribution?

Sure man, there are 100s of BBF states around the world What the hell are you talking about?

Any argument that you make about TC state to be bigger can be made for the GC state as well. 82%-18% is just what is fair.

As I told you if you don't like it don't accept it. You are not obligated to, as we are not obligated to accepted anything that you demand. Everybody gets the 100% of his rights and thats it.

What you are obligated to do though is to end the illegal occupation of Republic of Cyprus.

Only if or when a comprehensive solution can be found, otherwise you can wait for that swing.

[Pyrpolizer]

I kind of started liking it when Zany and Viewy and the rest of the defeated gang don't answer my posts anymore.
Hey I can now roam the forum and have my points flashing all over the place.

Good, good, good, mana mou this gives me new ideas.

[zan]

I had the saddest day ever since I started posting on this forum or any other. I felt a weight on my shoulders that has left me bitter today. You were the cause of it because of your single-minded views on the Cyprus problem. I have been arguing so much with my own brother about the way he thinks and I believe now I owe him an apology. Although he says he does not hate the Greeks, he does not trust a single one of you. He told me time and time again that you guys will do any and I mean anything to get what you want. I have argued that he is wrong. We argued so much that we both refrain from doing so now so that we do not fall apart as brothers. You were my last resort on this argument and although my brother does not know about this, your backing of people like Piratis and Kifeas and all those others that are simply not listening to a word we are saying but instead are on this blind quest to get the Greek agenda to the fore, has finally shown me that my brother is right. If he is reading this.....A very big Sorry Bruv.

I told you many times I basically consider you a very weak character. You should have your own views and be able to support your views with logic, not with emotion. You are an emotional person and as such you will always suffer from people who can minipualate you.
Not only your brother but everyone can make you switch to another view.

Just yesterday you told us you broke your relation with the one and only GC friend you had in the UK just because of this forum.
Another proof of your weakness. In Greek we say "agetai kai feretai" It means "he is been pushed and drifted"

I will talk to you just this once because I am afraid I might have inadvertently misled you in what I said. I have not broken off relations with my GC friend; we just don't talk about the Cyprus problem. I will be at his house this week installing sockets for him.






Back to ignoring Pyro.

[Pyrpolizer]

ZAN exhibiting his racist views on his fellow Cypriots. What a tragic shame .

""""""I had the saddest day ever since I started posting on this forum or any other. I felt a weight on my shoulders that has left me bitter today. You were the cause of it because of your single-minded views on the Cyprus problem. I have been arguing so much with my own brother about the way he thinks and I believe now I owe him an apology. Although he says he does not hate the Greeks, he does not trust a single one of you. He told me time and time again that you guys will do any and I mean anything to get what you want. I have argued that he is wrong. We argued so much that we both refrain from doing so now so that we do not fall apart as brothers. You were my last resort on this argument and although my brother does not know about this, your backing of people like Piratis and Kifeas and all those others that are simply not listening to a word we are saying but instead are on this blind quest to get the Greek agenda to the fore, has finally shown me that my brother is right. If he is reading this.....A very big Sorry Bruv. """"""

Let me also take you up on what you consider to be my position as far as Piratis's views are concerned.
If Piratis or any one on this forum has visions of waging war against their fellow Cypriots , who they themselves are the victims of circumstances dictated by fanatics , then I will not associate with any such views since they contradict everything that I stand for. I stand for a united Cyprus to be achieved by peaceful means , by mutual respect in an atmosphere of good will and co-operation. I do not share views of those who think that if and when the balance of power changes , conflict will commence amongst our Cypriot people. I stand by a peaceful solution to our Island's problem. Pleas do not ask me to disassociate my self from views that I neither share nor have ever been associated with. I condemn all who post non constructive views likely to inflame and not reconcile.
I hope I have made my self clear and will not respond to ludicrous assumptions.

How on earth is above quote by zan being racist, since when did not trusting people become racist? its called mistrust noting more nothing less. You people have a way of twisting everything to suit your purpose and sod the rest.

First we are bloody foreigners in our own country and now racists. The man tries to sell us faulty goods over and over again, as in the RoC, and does nothing to fix these items and then blames us again. That is why I asked you about these faulty goods Miltiades. As a businessman you are guilty of selling faulty goods and then when we complain you tell us we are not real customers anyway. The RoC has no guarantee papers. They have broken the statutory rights of everyone. Take the goods back and find an alternative supplier. Perhaps talking in business terms you might actually understand what we are saying.

No re you better come to our warehouse and steal all our TVs, because you lost your own written guarantee, or because you yourself burn it and then broke the TV as well.

[Pyrpolizer]

I had the saddest day ever since I started posting on this forum or any other. I felt a weight on my shoulders that has left me bitter today. You were the cause of it because of your single-minded views on the Cyprus problem. I have been arguing so much with my own brother about the way he thinks and I believe now I owe him an apology. Although he says he does not hate the Greeks, he does not trust a single one of you. He told me time and time again that you guys will do any and I mean anything to get what you want. I have argued that he is wrong. We argued so much that we both refrain from doing so now so that we do not fall apart as brothers. You were my last resort on this argument and although my brother does not know about this, your backing of people like Piratis and Kifeas and all those others that are simply not listening to a word we are saying but instead are on this blind quest to get the Greek agenda to the fore, has finally shown me that my brother is right. If he is reading this.....A very big Sorry Bruv.

I told you many times I basically consider you a very weak character. You should have your own views and be able to support your views with logic, not with emotion. You are an emotional person and as such you will always suffer from people who can minipualate you.
Not only your brother but everyone can make you switch to another view.

Just yesterday you told us you broke your relation with the one and only GC friend you had in the UK just because of this forum.
Another proof of your weakness. In Greek we say "agetai kai feretai" It means "he is been pushed and drifted"

I will talk to you just this once because I am afraid I might have inadvertently misled you in what I said. I have not broken off relations with my GC friend; we just don't talk about the Cyprus problem. I will be at his house this week installing sockets for him.






Back to ignoring Pyro.

Oh really? This is not what is says here!

QUOTING:
You are right in some aspects of me hating. I have never really been capable of such harsh feelings before, especially to my cousin GCs. What I hate now is the way some of you make me feel about these same GCs. I hate the way I now have to avoid talking to my one and only real GC friend that I have because I cannot tell him about some of the people I have encountered on these forums.

Avoid talking does not mean avoid talking for the Cyprus problem. It means avoid even saying good morning.

[Pyrpolizer]

And Zany remember next time you are ignoring me, you should prove you are really ignoring me. You already proved to your gang you are cheating on them by actually READING my posts.