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[Pyrpolizer]

Maybe the photographer did as they nearly always do. One of the things that I always remember from my amateur photographic days the sentence I read. Good pictures do not happen they are made.

Maybe or certainly?

[T_C]

Costas Genaris is the journalist that in one of his books revealed a dark side of the bath tub incidence by publishing an interview with Mr Omer Sami Cosar, the photographer that took the picture that has already been posted in this thread. In that interview Mr Omer told Costas Genaris that some TMT guys took him to the place and after arranging the bodys in a way that it would make it more dramatic aand taking pictures of the scene the TMT guys took the camera and the film and after telling him to keep silence about what he has seen they sent him away. At this interview Mr Omer is claimed to have raised the issue about the TC family being murdered on the orders of Mr Ilhan, however, it fails to explain why.......

I am speechless at some of the posts in this thread.

The story above is crap, Mr Omer supposedly told the author while in Athens "in a state of drunkness" (:roll:) that Nihat Ilhan killed his family and TMT with Denktas put the bodies in the bath. B-F-S!

People keep forgetting that the surviving witness' wife was also killed during that incident not just Ilhans family...so why would HE lie? What happened to HIS wife? Did he kill her also? What is wrong with you people?

This is the worst kind of denial I have yet to witness and I feel sick!!!!

[karma]

T_C , nothing is impossible for the provocaters...they r the evils...they r sold..nation doesnt matter.

[reportfromcyprus]

I dont think the timing is just a coincidence, ofcourse wht happened to Mr Ilhan is very sad but why this visit happens now?? doesnt it remind u some other similar case about a GC boy??

What can you say? It's a country coming face to face with its past and it's completely incapable of handling it because Cyprus culture doesn't encourage openess and directness.

This forum is practically the only place where everyone gets a hearing no matter what their opinion.

[Viewpoint]

Costas Genaris is the journalist that in one of his books revealed a dark side of the bath tub incidence by publishing an interview with Mr Omer Sami Cosar, the photographer that took the picture that has already been posted in this thread. In that interview Mr Omer told Costas Genaris that some TMT guys took him to the place and after arranging the bodys in a way that it would make it more dramatic aand taking pictures of the scene the TMT guys took the camera and the film and after telling him to keep silence about what he has seen they sent him away. At this interview Mr Omer is claimed to have raised the issue about the TC family being murdered on the orders of Mr Ilhan, however, it fails to explain why.......

I am speechless at some of the posts in this thread.

The story above is crap, Mr Omer supposedly told the author while in Athens "in a state of drunkness" (:roll:) that Nihat Ilhan killed his family and TMT with Denktas put the bodies in the bath. B-F-S!

People keep forgetting that the surviving witness' wife was also killed during that incident not just Ilhans family...so why would HE lie? What happened to HIS wife? Did he kill her also? What is wrong with you people?

This is the worst kind of denial I have yet to witness and I feel sick!!!!

TC thats what I have been saying all along these people are sick and in denial they would disown their mothers as long as it made GCs look innocent. Fat chance..

[Pyrpolizer]

With all due respect TC, there were NO TRUSTWORTHY witnesses to this murder.

All evidence so far indicates the members of Inhan family were killed SEPARATELY, inside the bathroom, from a short distance shooting (not from idle bullets fired from outside). Whoever did it, had a very specific target.

And whoever did it like I said before is a disgrace to humanity.

NB. The only witness was Zan who at the age of 4 heard machine guns firing in the region therefore the Inhan family must have been shot by Greeks, no doubt

[Pyrpolizer]

Aaaaaaand finallyyyyy the most striking evidence that something fishy goes on:

The bullets themselves were never examined.Examination of bullets is of FIRST and OUTMOST importance in case of murder. They show what type of gun fired them, from what distance, as well as how many guns were used.

Hmmm, yeap! The Greeks must have done it. When not even the bullets were ever examined.

[Pyrpolizer]

Or do you think the bullets were indeed examined and revealed a gun used exclussively by the Turkish Army??ehhh what the heck, we have "eye witnesses" which is better.

[T_C]

Yeah we should believe Nihat Ilhan killed his family, the TMT put them in the bath. Then the other man (the surviving witness) shot him self, the little girl and also shot and killed his wife just so it would look like the Greek people did it. I don't know how you can say "there wasn't a good enough witness" when the surviving witness' WIFE ALSO GOT SHOT AND KILLED. How many more times do I have to say this? NOT JUST ILHANS FAMILY, THE SURVIVORS WIFE WAS ALSO KILLED! And you're trying to say that there wasn't a good enough witness and he was lying? About the murder of a mother, her kids, in the incident where he himself was shot and his own wife murdered? On the same night that Greek people held TCs hostage at gunpoint!

I give up!

[T_C]

"On the night of the 24th of December, 1963 my wife Feride Hasan and I were paying a visit to the family of Major Dr. Nihat ilhan. Our neighbours Mrs. Ayshe of Mora, her daughter lshin and Mrs. Ayshe's sister Novber were also with us. We were all having supper. All of a sudden bullets from the Pedieos River direction started to riddle the house, sounding like heavy rain. Thinking that the dining-room where we were sitting was dangerous, we ran to the bathroom and toilet which we thought would be safer. Altogether we were nine persons. We all hid in the bathroom except my wife who took refuge in the toilet. We waited in fear. Mrs. ilhan the wife of Major Doctor, was standing in the bath with her three children Murat, Kutsi and Hakan in her arms. Suddenly with a great noise we heard the front door open. Greeks had come in and were combing, every corner of the house with their machine gun bullets. During these moments I heard a voice saying, in Greek "You want Taksim eh!" and then bullets started flying in the bathroom. Mrs. ilhan and her three children fell into the bath. They were shot. At this moment the Greeks, who broke into the bathroom, emptied their guns on us again. I heard one of the Major's children moan, then I fainted.
I remained unconscious for 2 or 3 hours, and later, I saw Mrs. Ilhan and her three children lying dead in the bath. I and the rest of the neighbours in the bathroom were all seriously wounded.
But what had happened to my wife? Then I remembered and immediately ran to the toilet, where, in the doorway, I saw her body. She was brutally murdered.
In the street amist the sound of shots I heard voices crying "Help, help. Is there no one to save us?" I became terrified. I thought that if the Greeks came again and found that I was not dead they would kill me. So I ran to the bedroom and hid myself under the double-bed.
An hour passed by. In the distance I could still hear shots. My mouth was dry, so I came out from under the bed and drank some water. Then I put some sweets in my pocket and went back to the bathroom, which was exactly as I had left it an hour ago. There I offered sweets to Mrs. Ayshe her daughter and Mrs. Novber who were all wounded.
We waited in the bathroom until 5 o'clock in the morning. I thought morning would never come. We were all wounded and needed to be taken to hospital. Finally, as we could walk, Mrs. Novber and 1, went out into the street hoping to find help and walked as far as Koshklu Chiftlik. There, we met some people who took us to hospital where we were operated on. When I regained consciousness I said that there were more wounded in the house and they went and brought Mrs. Ayshe and her daughter.
After staying three days in the hospital I was sent by plane to Ankara for further treatment. There I have had four months treatment but still I cannot use my arm. On my return to Cyprus, Greeks arrested me at the Airport.
All related to you above, I told the Greeks during my detention. They then released me. - - "