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Nihat Ilhan Speaks Out about Bath Murders

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Postby BirKibrisli » Wed Mar 21, 2007 3:15 pm

pitsilos wrote:no one got any pictures of the bathroom scene? strange, a lot of talk but no pictures. go figure


That's it,pitsilo...Despite eyewitness evidence that there were many pictures taken by a TMT photographer,the only picture ever made public was the one with the Ilhan family in the bath taken by Omer Sami Cosar.
That photo was posted earlier in this thread,I believe.
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Postby T_C » Wed Mar 21, 2007 3:21 pm

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There is video footage too not just one picture. I got this picture from a video, I'm looking for it on youtube but I can't find it. :cry:

I'll post the link when I find it..
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Postby pitsilos » Wed Mar 21, 2007 3:27 pm

thanks bir. i found it

just very quickly and i will look at this picture more closely tommorow, what strikes me, if automatic weapons were used you would expect a lot of bullet holes on the wall and especially on the water tank, which none appear. you see blood on the tank but no holes. if the automatic weapons were fired at point blank as people said the bullets would have penetrated and exited at the same time and they would have marked the walls and the tank.

you can see a some bullet holes on the bath tab but thats all...

as i said i will look at it tommorow again to confirm this.

thanks TC if you do find it please post the link. or maybe VP can take some pictures and post them
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Postby BirKibrisli » Wed Mar 21, 2007 3:29 pm

pitsilos wrote:bir can you please post some pictures or give me link?

thanks


You can find the bathroom picture plus some others on this site.
Just a warning that some of the pictures are distressing... :cry:

http://www.greekmurderers.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=35&Itemid=18
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Postby BirKibrisli » Wed Mar 21, 2007 3:34 pm

pitsilos wrote:thanks bir. i found it

just very quickly and i will look at this picture more closely tommorow, what strikes me, if automatic weapons were used you would expect a lot of bullet holes on the wall and especially on the water tank, which none appear. you see blood on the tank but no holes. if the automatic weapons were fired at point blank as people said the bullets would have penetrated and exited at the same time and they would have marked the walls and the tank.

you can see a some bullet holes on the bath tab but thats all...

as i said i will look at it tommorow again to confirm this.

thanks TC if you do find it please post the link. or maybe VP can take some pictures and post them


I was too late,I see.
Pitsilo,I think it is pretty well established that they were not killed in the bath,but perhaps in the bathroom or elsewhere in the house.
The first journalist on the scene,Omer Sami Cosar,is believed to have placed the bodies in the bath and arranged them for maximum efect... :(
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Postby pitsilos » Wed Mar 21, 2007 3:39 pm

well bir i don't think they were killed in the bath or in the bahroom, coz there are no bullet holes in the bathroom.if they lied about this you gotta wonder then, but don't say it to loud coz the vips and the zans might have a meltdown :lol:

one thing is for sure who ever did it is nothing but sick. and to make propaganda out of it you gotta be a bigger sicko
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Postby reportfromcyprus » Wed Mar 21, 2007 3:55 pm

turkish_cypriot wrote:Image

There is video footage too not just one picture. I got this picture from a video, I'm looking for it on youtube but I can't find it. :cry:

I'll post the link when I find it..


Anyone know if these cases have been taken to the European Court of Human Rights?
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Postby Kikapu » Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:13 pm

I think we can all agree, that we really do not know all the facts regarding these gruesome killings. In war innocent people die, and for no reason other than, just being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Then there are targeted killings. But it has to be said, dead bodies piled in a bath tub, has more "shock effect" than if these people were shot anywhere in the house. It would be a senseless killing all the same, but without the "shock effect".

The "shock effect" can be definitely be manipulated by either side. For the GC's, would be to show the TC's, if they don't behave or if they don't leave Cyprus, this could be them next. On the other side of the coin, the "shock effect" can be manipulated my the TC's to start putting the partition wheels in motion. If the GC's can do this to this poor family, they could do it to us, would be the thinking for the TC's....

So, the question is, is not so much who killed these poor people, but who stood to gain on the " shock effect" propaganda. Yesterday someone posted 800 dead TC's from 1956 to 1975, and they all seem to be but forgotten, so someone knew, that the "Bathroom Murders" would gain a lot of momentum, or as it's called, "it had a lot off legs" in the propaganda world.

I really could not decisivly say, who piled the bodies, for the "maximum shock effect", but I can't seem to get it out of my mind, what our dear friend "Shahmaran" said couple of weeks ago. He stated, that part of his military training, was to bring the recruits to this house and let them see the what the "Greeks" did to the "Turks", which "Shahmaran" himself described it as, "BRAINWASHING" session. So, after 40+ years later, the "legs" of these killings, is still going strong with propaganda.

I let you fill in the missing parts yourselves, as to who piled the bodies and why.
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Postby T_C » Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:37 pm

Kikapu wrote:So, the question is, is not so much who killed these poor people, but who stood to gain on the "shock effect" propaganda.


Kikapu what are you trying to say? Are you being serious?

So the question is not so much who made the GCs refugees but who stood to gain on the "shock effect" of showing people pictures of children holding pictures of their missing fathers???

You call a picture of murdered TC's "propaganda"??

Why is it that everything thats Turkish or TC is "propaganda", anything done to TCs is "questionable"?

This is getting ridiculous :evil:
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Postby karma » Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:41 pm

turkish_cypriot wrote:
Kikapu wrote:So, the question is, is not so much who killed these poor people, but who stood to gain on the "shock effect" propaganda.


Kikapu what are you trying to say? Are you being serious?

So the question is not so much who made the GCs refugees but who stood to gain on the "shock effect" of showing people pictures of children holding pictures of their missing fathers???

You call a picture of murdered TC's "propaganda"??

Why is it that everything thats Turkish or TC is "propaganda", anything done to TCs is "questionable"?

Not anything but this spesific Thing is questionable..

This is getting ridiculous :evil:
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