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[askimwos]

Are you saying that TC tour operators will not be at a disadvantage as the control of the tourist would initially be in the GC control as they would fly into a GC airport and be exposed to your propaganda to change where they stay or are offered a better deal leaving the TC operator out of the picture saying the tourist preferred to stay south. Think of it the other way around tourists fly into Ercan are met by our tour operators and given such a great time they are presuaded to stay north. Saying this there is a TC tour operator on the verge of doing what you suggest lets see how he does and what obstacles are put in his way. The objections have already started about his advertising direct flights to North Cyprus.

Vp let teh TC tour operators decide this...you will be surprised that these will jump from joy if only half of the 2.8million tourists that visit the RoC every year only got to stay for even 1 night in the north. It is a way of using the infrustructure of a 30 year old booming tourism industry to help boost and develop the tourist industry in the north. Let those directly affected to decide and keep your nationalistic views for you. The TCs have al;ready suffered from the golden cage that Turkey offered them with the invation and the forced relocation.

[zan]

sweetie pie wrote:

You forget that there is propaganda on both sides and as a Brit who has been across to the North to meet my sister in law who happens to be Turkish I know that EACH side has its own propaganda. Just look at the photographs on the Turkish side. I have been across the border on several occasions and not once has there been a problem either going or coming. My brother has done this in reverse and he has had no problems either.

And as I said do you think that this is all going to make the tourists rush over to see us play our games or stay away.

[Kikapu]

Are you saying that TC tour operators will not be at a disadvantage as the control of the tourist would initially be in the GC control as they would fly into a GC airport and be exposed to your propaganda to change where they stay or are offered a better deal leaving the TC operator out of the picture saying the tourist preferred to stay south. Think of it the other way around tourists fly into Ercan are met by our tour operators and given such a great time they are presuaded to stay north. Saying this there is a TC tour operator on the verge of doing what you suggest lets see how he does and what obstacles are put in his way. The objections have already started about his advertising direct flights to North Cyprus.

Please VP. I'm really trying to like you, but you want to argue, when there's no argument, to be had.

People pay for their package travels, ie. flight, hotel, meals, ground transportation, tour guide all up front, months before leaving their country to Cyprus. If the hotel arrangement is with a hotel in Girne / Kyrenia, then that's where the bus will take them. If they don't show up, because they have been "kidnapped" at the Larnaca airport by those "brainwashing propagandist GC's" the hotel has already gotten it's money in advance. The hotels will only wish, that the GC's will do that, but no such luck, I'm sure.

Please VP, make better arguments than that.

[Kikapu]

As my ex girlfriend use to say " excuses are like assholes, that everyone has one".

I think that says it all, with all that you have written above.

Are you sure she did not mean you Kikapu
































Only joking.

It was no joke Zan. She was using them on me, everytime I tried to pull a fast one.

She always knew how to get even.

I think, that's where I got my trainning from.

[humanist]

Kikapu, you got ot wrong my friend haven't you read the papers that millions of tourists go missing every year a upon their arrival to Larnaca airport because of all those Greek Speaking Cypriot man eating animals/

[Pyrpolizer]

Are you saying that TC tour operators will not be at a disadvantage as the control of the tourist would initially be in the GC control as they would fly into a GC airport and be exposed to your propaganda to change where they stay or are offered a better deal leaving the TC operator out of the picture saying the tourist preferred to stay south. Think of it the other way around tourists fly into Ercan are met by our tour operators and given such a great time they are presuaded to stay north. Saying this there is a TC tour operator on the verge of doing what you suggest lets see how he does and what obstacles are put in his way. The objections have already started about his advertising direct flights to North Cyprus.

Vp let teh TC tour operators decide this...you will be surprised that these will jump from joy if only half of the 2.8million tourists that visit the RoC every year only got to stay for even 1 night in the north. It is a way of using the infrustructure of a 30 year old booming tourism industry to help boost and develop the tourist industry in the north. Let those directly affected to decide and keep your nationalistic views for you. The TCs have al;ready suffered from the golden cage that Turkey offered them with the invation and the forced relocation.

Stay where in the north Askimwos? On hotels built on our land?
And why for 1 night and not for 2 or 3 or for all their stay?
Why the hell don't we accept direct flights to Ercan and hung ourselves then?

Tut tut tut, you have good arguments most of the times, i really don't know what happens to you some times.

[Viewpoint]

Are you saying that TC tour operators will not be at a disadvantage as the control of the tourist would initially be in the GC control as they would fly into a GC airport and be exposed to your propaganda to change where they stay or are offered a better deal leaving the TC operator out of the picture saying the tourist preferred to stay south. Think of it the other way around tourists fly into Ercan are met by our tour operators and given such a great time they are presuaded to stay north. Saying this there is a TC tour operator on the verge of doing what you suggest lets see how he does and what obstacles are put in his way. The objections have already started about his advertising direct flights to North Cyprus.

Vp let teh TC tour operators decide this...you will be surprised that these will jump from joy if only half of the 2.8million tourists that visit the RoC every year only got to stay for even 1 night in the north. It is a way of using the infrustructure of a 30 year old booming tourism industry to help boost and develop the tourist industry in the north. Let those directly affected to decide and keep your nationalistic views for you. The TCs have al;ready suffered from the golden cage that Turkey offered them with the invation and the forced relocation.

2.8? when? look at your stats
http://www.mof.gov.cy/mof/cystat/statis ... penElement

Booming less said about that the better...

anyway Tour operators are free to use the south there are no obstacles from this side, you should really ask them why they dont, maybe there is someone on the forum that can give us more informtation.

[zan]

Are you saying that TC tour operators will not be at a disadvantage as the control of the tourist would initially be in the GC control as they would fly into a GC airport and be exposed to your propaganda to change where they stay or are offered a better deal leaving the TC operator out of the picture saying the tourist preferred to stay south. Think of it the other way around tourists fly into Ercan are met by our tour operators and given such a great time they are presuaded to stay north. Saying this there is a TC tour operator on the verge of doing what you suggest lets see how he does and what obstacles are put in his way. The objections have already started about his advertising direct flights to North Cyprus.

Vp let teh TC tour operators decide this...you will be surprised that these will jump from joy if only half of the 2.8million tourists that visit the RoC every year only got to stay for even 1 night in the north. It is a way of using the infrustructure of a 30 year old booming tourism industry to help boost and develop the tourist industry in the north. Let those directly affected to decide and keep your nationalistic views for you. The TCs have al;ready suffered from the golden cage that Turkey offered them with the invation and the forced relocation.

Stay where in the north Askimwos? On hotels built on our land?
And why for 1 night and not for 2 or 3 or for all their stay?
Why the hell don't we accept direct flights to Ercan and hung ourselves then?

Tut tut tut, you have good arguments most of the times, i really don't know what happens to you some times.

And thre you have it...The true face of what is really going on...

[Viewpoint]

Are you saying that TC tour operators will not be at a disadvantage as the control of the tourist would initially be in the GC control as they would fly into a GC airport and be exposed to your propaganda to change where they stay or are offered a better deal leaving the TC operator out of the picture saying the tourist preferred to stay south. Think of it the other way around tourists fly into Ercan are met by our tour operators and given such a great time they are presuaded to stay north. Saying this there is a TC tour operator on the verge of doing what you suggest lets see how he does and what obstacles are put in his way. The objections have already started about his advertising direct flights to North Cyprus.

Please VP. I'm really trying to like you, but you want to argue, when there's no argument, to be had.

People pay for their package travels, ie. flight, hotel, meals, ground transportation, tour guide all up front, months before leaving their country to Cyprus. If the hotel arrangement is with a hotel in Girne / Kyrenia, then that's where the bus will take them. If they don't show up, because they have been "kidnapped" at the Larnaca airport by those "brainwashing propagandist GC's" the hotel has already gotten it's money in advance. The hotels will only wish, that the GC's will do that, but no such luck, I'm sure.

Please VP, make better arguments than that.

I am not a travel agant so I do not know exactly when and how these tourists would make payments and who would collect and distribute the funds. The GC minds are very devious and you think to naively as you have become so used to the outside world and not the Cypriot world, they could put in an opt out clause in the agreement to get a return if the holiday maker decides of their own freewill of course to stay longer in the south. there are many ways of manipulating the situation and GCs are masters at it.

TC tour operators are not restricted in doing business with GC tour operators maybe we shoud ask them why they do not bring in tourists via the GC airport.

[askimwos]

Vp an average of 2.5million holiday makes over thelast 5 years...what does this say to you? This is up more than 10-20% over the previous decade. Bear inmind that these figures do not include people staying over on business trips..