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Can I just jump in here and ask VP not to call you Askim.........This is what Lena calls me and two straight men that have never met should not be using this term of endearment.

point taken....

[zan]

Can I just jump in here and ask VP not to call you Askim.........This is what Lena calls me and two straight men that have never met should not be using this term of endearment.

point taken....

Where has every one gone VP...........The wood work must be very crowded. I hope this puts an end to these stupid accusations...........I am not holding my breath though. Perhaps they are regrouping now......Zan stop it......thats enough.

[Viewpoint]

Can I just jump in here and ask VP not to call you Askim.........This is what Lena calls me and two straight men that have never met should not be using this term of endearment.

point taken....

Where has every one gone VP...........The wood work must be very crowded. I hope this puts an end to these stupid accusations...........I am not holding my breath though. Perhaps they are regrouping now......Zan stop it......thats enough.

[Pyrpolizer]

Yeah right!
Go on dreaming Pyr.
Where there is money to be made and low risk of bad publicity (this is provided the RoC agrees on this in return for freezing GC properties being sold) the business is business.

You seem to forget that the one who actually said "provided" is me not you. Where have I ever disputed the power of money and bussiness is something only you can tell.

I called you nationalist because of a series of posts Pyr, including your attitude of not accepting anything that you don't agree on. Do I need to remind you of your post where you called one third of GCs lambs and belonging to a dangerous party that you more or less called traitors?
These things show your nationalistic views and your sometimes fascists attitude. I gave you the chance and you never apologized for that post of yours. I consider you an extreme right element and I do not need to see you carrying a greek flag to say this.

I said Akel is an extremely danerous party in the context of what the subject matter was. Do you remember what the subject matter was? It was about trying to keep it’s voters by saying they would accept the Anan Plan with just a few cosmetic changes.They know damn well they are lieing. Yes I call the Akel supporters lambs and I will continue doing so because I have evidence. You want to hear the evidence? Here it is coming from hundreds of Akel lambs:

"Yes re koumbare I am Akel blind supporter. You see this pen? If Akel tells me to vote for this pen I will vote for this pen". Now you go deny these facts.

You call me a nationalist for that? Call me whatever you like.Name calling and painting themselves as democtrats and progressive forces was always the habit of Akel. The most deep Stalinist party in the whole Europe dares call everybody fascist and nationalist.

Now as far as my original proposal, go back to my original post and see what exactly I said about the issue of cooperation on tourism.
What I said is that where there is a way there is will and that a legal way can be found to do this. Your suggestion about the proposal being UNCONDITIONAL is another twist and spin from your side. So please net time read carefully and don't get agitated if being critisised.

I call you once again to go back and read my original post, the whole discussion started under the condition of TCs accepting to use Larnaca airport and comanage the Famagusta port instead of askind for direct trade in the way they understand it.

Your conditions were not touching the REAL issue! The real issue (beyond the matter of recognition) is how this move would affect the illegal sale and exploitation of GC properties.

[askimwos]

Another post that proves me right in what I am saying! Thanks for once again confirming this Pyr.
No matter of how hard you try to twist and present things the oposite way the written evidence is there.

You said UNCONDITIONAL and this was proven wrong...don't forget that the issue of trade from RoC leagal ports and airports and the issue of comanaging the Famagusta port and opening the city is the official proposal of the RoC.

Don't spent your time trying to find excuses mate, I have never called you names before revealing yourself with that apalling post that labelled one third of the GCs as lambs. The term nationalist was a very mild one I used indeed...

What you forgot to mention though Pyr is that Akel members hands have never been painted red by the blood of any of their compatriots be it TCs be it GCs. This is unlike to others that brought us to this situation with their nationalistic policies, and you dare to call akel's voters lambs!

[Pyrpolizer]

Neither our hands have blood on Askimwos.
Unless of course you exclude the blood on our my parents hands helping the cows deliver during long midnight hours.And I don't align with ANY party if that makes you happy. But since I am forced to vote I always cast my vote to the weakest hoping if everybody does the same we might bring a change to the dinosaurs who rule us.

Your proposal to VP did not simply invlove doing everything through the legal RoC ports and Airports under the already known CONDITIONS set by RoC. This is nothing new anyway!
Go back and read your proposal, then you will clealy notice it was further than that and UNCONDITIONAL.

[Pyrpolizer]

Do you not feel the animosity towards the north when GC land owners see brand new hotels being built on disputed land. Then you naively believe that the capitalistic mechanism will work to get these same people to promote tourism in TRNC, imo you need time to re-asses in the ingrained hostility towards the north and any progress that would improve the situation here, you tend to be very superficial in your arguments.

Of course there is animosity on those building on stolen GC land and trying to manufacture a tourist industry based on theft.Of course there is animosity to those who sell stolen GC properties to foreigners. What would you expect?

Read the terms Askimwos eventually incorporated to understand that the animosity is for the illegality itself. Not for any legal and honest ways in which the TC people could be helped to advance.

[zan]

Do you not feel the animosity towards the north when GC land owners see brand new hotels being built on disputed land. Then you naively believe that the capitalistic mechanism will work to get these same people to promote tourism in TRNC, imo you need time to re-asses in the ingrained hostility towards the north and any progress that would improve the situation here, you tend to be very superficial in your arguments.

Of course there is animosity on those building on stolen GC land and trying to manufacture a tourist industry based on theft.Of course there is animosity to those who sell stolen GC properties to foreigners. What would you expect?

Read the terms Askimwos eventually incorporated to understand that the animosity is for the illegality itself. Not for any legal and honest ways in which the TC people could be helped to advance.

But still you rfuse to acknowledge the RoC built on murder and deciept.

[pitsilos]

and the north is established by himmler's twin dektash and its built on?



ps zan its been boring here and you came on too late i gotta go to bed.

[zan]

and the north is established by himmler's twin dektash and its built on?



ps zan its been boring here and you came on too late i gotta go to bed.

Ganight mate......................