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It was the Jesuits - long before Freud - who said, "Give me the child, and I'll give you the man".

That same tenet was behind the creation of The Hitler Youth movement and the Young Communists in the former USSR.

[LENA]

I think you can't generalise like all people are inherently good or bad.Some people are inherently good,some people are inherently bad...
But,you must remember one thing: no one is born inherently bad...
If someone turns bad you need to look at more than their genes...
Usually it depends on what happens to them when they are children...

I agree with you Birkibrisli...but depend on lots of thing Birkibrislicim!!!
We have to teach them well...what is good and what is bad, and give them good examples to follow or imitate...but never lead their mind...we have to give to our children the ability to choose...to make their own choices...give both sides and let them judge not guide them how they have to act, eat, think, breath...they have to learn to judge what are good for them...sometimes good things for someone are bad for someone else!!!

[BirKibrisli]

You are right,Lena mou...
Have you read the poem about Children by KHalil Gibran..?
You will love it if you haven't..Here it is:

Your children are not your children.

They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself.

They come through you but not from you,

And though they are with you, yet they belong not to you.

You may give them your love but not your thoughts.

For they have their own thoughts.

You may house their bodies but not their souls,

For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow, which you cannot visit,
not even in your dreams.

You may strive to be like them, but seek not to make them like you.

For life goes not backward nor tarries with yesterday.

You are the bows from which your children as living arrows are sent forth.

The archer sees the mark upon the path of the infinite, and He bends you
with His might that His arrows may go swift and far.

Let your bending in the archer's hand be for gladness;

For even as he loves the arrow that flies, so He loves also the bow that
is stable.

-- Kahlil Gibran

[LENA]

You are right,Lena mou...
Have you read the poem about Children by KHalil Gibran..?
You will love it if you haven't..Here it is:

Your children are not your children.

They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself.

They come through you but not from you,

And though they are with you, yet they belong not to you.

You may give them your love but not your thoughts.

For they have their own thoughts.

You may house their bodies but not their souls,

For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow, which you cannot visit,
not even in your dreams.

You may strive to be like them, but seek not to make them like you.

For life goes not backward nor tarries with yesterday.

You are the bows from which your children as living arrows are sent forth.

The archer sees the mark upon the path of the infinite, and He bends you
with His might that His arrows may go swift and far.

Let your bending in the archer's hand be for gladness;

For even as he loves the arrow that flies, so He loves also the bow that
is stable.

-- Kahlil Gibran

Thank you Birkibrisli mou, yes you are right I do loved it...and is so true!!!!

[reportfromcyprus]

No, people are not innately good, some are, some aren't. Someone goes bad when one of the emotions or characteristics gets distorted by bitterness.

For example; a competitive person turning envious or jealous, and doing malicious things, like that US skater who had her rival knifed.

Or a nurturing person who becomes over-protective and controlling and doesn't let people be themselves.

I think bitterness is the cause of so many problems in life, it's always the emotion that twists otherwise healthy people into deliberately malicious or purposely uncaring people.