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TCs dont want EOKA celebrations

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Postby Viewpoint » Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:18 am

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On the contrary this racist discrimination was what sparked the whole conflict. TCs were given 30% while they were only 18%. The goverment could not find 30% competent TCs to fill the positions so it didn't fully implement this discrimination, the TCs retaliated by vetoing the taxes. The state could not function without taxes so Makarios proposed changes to the constitution. TCs got pissed that Makarios even dared to make such proposals and they left from the parliament and everything went downhill from there.


Could you tell everyone why the TCs had to use their veto something about a supreme court judgement.......do you recall that?


Why don;t you enlighten us Vp?


Sorry but I have fallen into this trap before, I suggest you do your own research as anything I put forward will be torn to pieces as being untrue and propaganda.
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Postby DT. » Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:45 am

Viewpoint wrote:
askimwos wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Piratis
On the contrary this racist discrimination was what sparked the whole conflict. TCs were given 30% while they were only 18%. The goverment could not find 30% competent TCs to fill the positions so it didn't fully implement this discrimination, the TCs retaliated by vetoing the taxes. The state could not function without taxes so Makarios proposed changes to the constitution. TCs got pissed that Makarios even dared to make such proposals and they left from the parliament and everything went downhill from there.


Could you tell everyone why the TCs had to use their veto something about a supreme court judgement.......do you recall that?


Why don;t you enlighten us Vp?


Sorry but I have fallen into this trap before, I suggest you do your own research as anything I put forward will be torn to pieces as being untrue and propaganda.


Not until Zan answers the rebuttal to his baseless argument by Piratis. I can't believe that he's explained the 60s constitution as positive discrimination!!!!! If this is the basis of your arguments then we've just opened up a huge can of worms.

How can Piratis be accussed of spinning because he's corrected Zan with the CORRECT definition of positive discrimination?
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Postby free_cyprus » Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:01 pm

whats sparked the whole thing of in cyprus is when the cypriots started listening to greece and turkey . when they became their agents, when they carried out crimes against their own cypriot people..................cypriots are guilty of this..................... but all i hear in here is, who is wright and who is wrong. and who done what. they all done it. they are all guilty, and yet you feckers in this forum, still fight and takes sides, defending the myth, we are turks and greeks,
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Postby Viewpoint » Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:09 pm

DT wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
askimwos wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Piratis
On the contrary this racist discrimination was what sparked the whole conflict. TCs were given 30% while they were only 18%. The goverment could not find 30% competent TCs to fill the positions so it didn't fully implement this discrimination, the TCs retaliated by vetoing the taxes. The state could not function without taxes so Makarios proposed changes to the constitution. TCs got pissed that Makarios even dared to make such proposals and they left from the parliament and everything went downhill from there.


Could you tell everyone why the TCs had to use their veto something about a supreme court judgement.......do you recall that?


Why don;t you enlighten us Vp?


Sorry but I have fallen into this trap before, I suggest you do your own research as anything I put forward will be torn to pieces as being untrue and propaganda.


Not until Zan answers the rebuttal to his baseless argument by Piratis. I can't believe that he's explained the 60s constitution as positive discrimination!!!!! If this is the basis of your arguments then we've just opened up a huge can of worms.

How can Piratis be accussed of spinning because he's corrected Zan with the CORRECT definition of positive discrimination?


The 1960 agreements were to counter balance the dangers of enosis and protect the minority from being quashed by the GC majority, surely it served its purpose as the GCs tried to have everything their own way from day 1, if there were no safeguards Cyprus would now be Greece and we TC would not exist or at best be Muslim Greeks.
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Postby free_cyprus » Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:23 pm

The 1960 agreements
WAS DRAWN UP, TO DEVIDE THE ISLAND YOU MORONS, EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED IN THE 50S, AND THE 60S, WAS DESIGHNED BY BRITAIN, TURKEY, AND GREECE, TO DEVIDE THE ISLAND,
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Postby DT. » Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:32 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
DT wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
askimwos wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Piratis
On the contrary this racist discrimination was what sparked the whole conflict. TCs were given 30% while they were only 18%. The goverment could not find 30% competent TCs to fill the positions so it didn't fully implement this discrimination, the TCs retaliated by vetoing the taxes. The state could not function without taxes so Makarios proposed changes to the constitution. TCs got pissed that Makarios even dared to make such proposals and they left from the parliament and everything went downhill from there.


Could you tell everyone why the TCs had to use their veto something about a supreme court judgement.......do you recall that?


Why don;t you enlighten us Vp?


Sorry but I have fallen into this trap before, I suggest you do your own research as anything I put forward will be torn to pieces as being untrue and propaganda.


Not until Zan answers the rebuttal to his baseless argument by Piratis. I can't believe that he's explained the 60s constitution as positive discrimination!!!!! If this is the basis of your arguments then we've just opened up a huge can of worms.

How can Piratis be accussed of spinning because he's corrected Zan with the CORRECT definition of positive discrimination?


The 1960 agreements were to counter balance the dangers of enosis and protect the minority from being quashed by the GC majority, surely it served its purpose as the GCs tried to have everything their own way from day 1, if there were no safeguards Cyprus would now be Greece and we TC would not exist or at best be Muslim Greeks.


A little like the Turkish Christians left behind in trapezounta?
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Postby Get Real! » Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:45 pm

Viewpoint wrote:The 1960 agreements were to counter balance the dangers of enosis and protect the minority from being quashed by the GC majority, surely it served its purpose as the GCs tried to have everything their own way from day 1, if there were no safeguards Cyprus would now be Greece and we TC would not exist or at best be Muslim Greeks.

The 1960 agreements occurred because EOKA "A" political and military pressure made Britain re-evaluate the usefulness of hanging on to the entire island so the decision to grant Cyprus independence had nothing to do with enosis.

Britain, Turkey, and Greece, certainly influenced the DETAILS of these agreements but it was the efforts of the Greek Cypriot guerillas that shed blood, sweat, and tears, during 1955-59 in their campaign to liberate Cyprus that "convinced" Britain.

Understandably the Turkish Cypriot community, which sided with the occupier, was left looking rather embarrassed when the British had had enough so it's no surprise that the naive 1960 agreements collapsed some three years later.

Could the Greek Cypriots possibly ever forgive the Turkish Cypriots? I ask you brother...
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Postby Viewpoint » Wed Mar 21, 2007 2:07 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:The 1960 agreements were to counter balance the dangers of enosis and protect the minority from being quashed by the GC majority, surely it served its purpose as the GCs tried to have everything their own way from day 1, if there were no safeguards Cyprus would now be Greece and we TC would not exist or at best be Muslim Greeks.

The 1960 agreements occurred because EOKA "A" political and military pressure made Britain re-evaluate the usefulness of hanging on to the entire island so the decision to grant Cyprus independence had nothing to do with enosis.

Britain, Turkey, and Greece, certainly influenced the DETAILS of these agreements but it was the efforts of the Greek Cypriot guerillas that shed blood, sweat, and tears, during 1955-59 in their campaign to liberate Cyprus that "convinced" Britain.

Understandably the Turkish Cypriot community, which sided with the occupier, was left looking rather embarrassed when the British had had enough so it's no surprise that the naive 1960 agreements collapsed some three years later.

Could the Greek Cypriots possibly ever forgive the Turkish Cypriots? I ask you brother...


Nothing to forgive the pretence of independence was a smoke screen for enosis, the 1960 agreements and the TCs were an inconvenience that had to be dealt with one way or another, your greed, eagerness and unestimation of the TC people while trying to turn Cyprus into Greece was your down fall and the rest is history.
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Postby DT. » Wed Mar 21, 2007 2:14 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:The 1960 agreements were to counter balance the dangers of enosis and protect the minority from being quashed by the GC majority, surely it served its purpose as the GCs tried to have everything their own way from day 1, if there were no safeguards Cyprus would now be Greece and we TC would not exist or at best be Muslim Greeks.

The 1960 agreements occurred because EOKA "A" political and military pressure made Britain re-evaluate the usefulness of hanging on to the entire island so the decision to grant Cyprus independence had nothing to do with enosis.

Britain, Turkey, and Greece, certainly influenced the DETAILS of these agreements but it was the efforts of the Greek Cypriot guerillas that shed blood, sweat, and tears, during 1955-59 in their campaign to liberate Cyprus that "convinced" Britain.

Understandably the Turkish Cypriot community, which sided with the occupier, was left looking rather embarrassed when the British had had enough so it's no surprise that the naive 1960 agreements collapsed some three years later.

Could the Greek Cypriots possibly ever forgive the Turkish Cypriots? I ask you brother...


Nothing to forgive the pretence of independence was a smoke screen for enosis, the 1960 agreements and the TCs were an inconvenience that had to be dealt with one way or another, your greed, eagerness and unestimation of the TC people while trying to turn Cyprus into Greece was your down fall and the rest is history.


starting to sound a lot like Groucho Marx in one of his dictator speeches :roll:
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Postby Viewpoint » Wed Mar 21, 2007 2:22 pm

DT wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:The 1960 agreements were to counter balance the dangers of enosis and protect the minority from being quashed by the GC majority, surely it served its purpose as the GCs tried to have everything their own way from day 1, if there were no safeguards Cyprus would now be Greece and we TC would not exist or at best be Muslim Greeks.

The 1960 agreements occurred because EOKA "A" political and military pressure made Britain re-evaluate the usefulness of hanging on to the entire island so the decision to grant Cyprus independence had nothing to do with enosis.

Britain, Turkey, and Greece, certainly influenced the DETAILS of these agreements but it was the efforts of the Greek Cypriot guerillas that shed blood, sweat, and tears, during 1955-59 in their campaign to liberate Cyprus that "convinced" Britain.

Understandably the Turkish Cypriot community, which sided with the occupier, was left looking rather embarrassed when the British had had enough so it's no surprise that the naive 1960 agreements collapsed some three years later.

Could the Greek Cypriots possibly ever forgive the Turkish Cypriots? I ask you brother...


Nothing to forgive the pretence of independence was a smoke screen for enosis, the 1960 agreements and the TCs were an inconvenience that had to be dealt with one way or another, your greed, eagerness and unestimation of the TC people while trying to turn Cyprus into Greece was your down fall and the rest is history.


starting to sound a lot like Groucho Marx in one of his dictator speeches :roll:


Is he aware of the Cyprus issue as well? :lol:
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