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TCs dont want EOKA celebrations

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Postby cypezokyli » Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:04 pm

theres is always a way to find middle ground about things like that.
it takes some courage though, and some knowledge of history
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Postby free_cyprus » Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:11 pm

they all comited crimes against cyprus people be it EOKA or TMT and they still use propaganda to devide the cypriot people i bet you there is someone in this very forum that belongs to TMT and EOKA lol and they now and then say things to inflame the people of cyprus in this room........................... to put it simply
ANY PERSON THAT COMITS MURDER ANY PERSON
THAT FURNISHED THE LEATHEL WEAPON
FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE CRIME
ANY PERSON WHO IS AN ECSESORY TO THE CRIME
IS GUILTY
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Postby Piratis » Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:18 pm

I support nothing that EOKA-B did.

Now tell me why the EOKA of 1955-59 were traitors. They fought against the colonialists, so whom they betray? The Queen of England?
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Postby GAVCARoCOM » Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:25 pm

Piratis wrote:I support nothing that EOKA-B did.

Now tell me why the EOKA of 1955-59 were traitors. They fought against the colonialists, so whom they betray? The Queen of England?


OK . But why they calling EOKA and EOKA-B and they dont call different names. Asmuch as i know Papadopulus is involved with EOKA-B. He was even saying that the best turk is the dead turk

EOKA main aim was ENOSIS
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Postby free_cyprus » Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:30 pm

LISTEN EOKA WAS SPONCERED BY GREECE AND TMT WAS SPONCERED BY TURKEY. THEY WERE HAVING APROXY WAR INC CYPRUS INVOLVING CYPRIOTS ORDERING CYPRIOTS TO COMIT CRIMES AGAINS THEIR OWN PEOPLE THE CYPRIOTS....................... IS THERE SOMEONE IN THIS FORUM WHO IS GOING TO STEP FORWARD AND DISAGREE WITH ME ON THIS POINT WHEN ITS EVIDENT OR IS ANYONE GOING TO SAY YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS THIS IS TRUE
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Postby DT. » Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:30 pm

GAVCARoCOM wrote:
Piratis wrote:I support nothing that EOKA-B did.

Now tell me why the EOKA of 1955-59 were traitors. They fought against the colonialists, so whom they betray? The Queen of England?


OK . But why they calling EOKA and EOKA-B and they dont call different names. Asmuch as i know Papadopulus is involved with EOKA-B. He was even saying that the best turk is the dead turk


stop arguing like a 5 year old Gav spitting out every piece of uselss info you've been told. Take a breath, research a little make up your own mind and then jump in here with your bold statements or people will stop talking with you and start ignoring you like that idiot free cyprus.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:31 pm

In support of Piratis' view...

Greek Cypriots shed blood, sweat, and tears during 1955-59 in their ultimately successful political and military campaign to liberate Cyprus from the British, albeit with some compromise such as the British bases.

It is indeed rather unfortunate that the Turkish Cypriot community had no interest in a liberated Cyprus and chose to side with the occupier.
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Postby Piratis » Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:37 pm

They called it EOKA-B because they hoped to get the support of the people (but they did not) and because the leader (Grivas) was the same.

Papadopoulos was in the political branch of the original EOKA. Not only he had nothing to do with EOKA-B, but on the contrary he was a close associate (and minister) of Makarios, who EOKA-B tried to kill and overthrown.

The original EOKA fought against the colonialists and those that helped them (although some people within the original EOKA were anti-communists and some killings not related to liberation were made also)

EOKA-B was a terrorist organization that committed crimes against Cypriots and tried to overthrown the democratically elected government of Cyprus.

Some members of EOKA-B and even the son of Samson are now members of DISY which is now the opposition party to the government of Papadopoulos.

Actually when Cleredes (DISY) was in power, they gave some benefits to some former EOKA-B members.
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Postby GAVCARoCOM » Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:41 pm

I beleive EOKA and EOKA-B was kindof

Plan A and Plan B to get to ENOSIS
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Postby Piratis » Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:42 pm

However, what I would say is that Grivas, who started both EOKA and EOKA-B should not be honored in any way. Therefore I would fully support a movement to rename all streets that have his name or anything else that honors him, and just keep what is necessary for historically reasons (like his hide-out during the anti-colonialist struggle)
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