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[joderv1]

Thanks Pyrpolizer and Viewpoint. I will be glad to get back to UK, believe me.

Our children will be happier there we feel. At least there will be less stress, but we have to start again. But at least we are going back home and we know the system there.

This forum has given me a lot of insight into a lot of things and I am glad I found it. I know it was not the object of the post, but I got some things off my chest.

Jo

[Kikapu]

What I did not say about my in-laws is they speak full English. His mother was brought up in the UK from a very young age and his father left Cyprus and was living in the UK up until 33 years ago. His parents met in the UK, got engaged and then came to Cyprus.

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@ VP,

Well, this surely blows your theory out of the water. As you can see, many TC's get married to other nationalities, and it's not just Birkibrisli, that you always pick on. You just can't change some peoples 15th century mentality, that's all.

@ Pyro,

I have one of those 15th century mental cases, as a brother-in-law from Cyprus, living most of his life, in the UK. I also had one from Turkey, but he is history now.

The one in London, has a 26 year old son ( my nephew) , which he comes and goes as he pleases, and he also has a daughter (my niece) at 22, but has strict control over her. Even though they allow her to go out with FEMALE friends now and again, she is very much controlled. Couple of years ago, she was interested in a young British born TC, who had an ear ring, and wore a knitted hat, like the rappers do. The father told the young men, that he had to get rid of the ear ring and further more, there were to be no "fuki fuki". Needles to say, his friendship with my niece ended, within a month or so. Now they want to move to Cyprus, so that she is not too influenced by British "lose" Girls. I don't know if he knows, but there are about 60,000+ men in the "TRNC" that are looking for some "honey", and not necessarily for marriage.

That's why Shah is in the UK.

One more thing. This B-I-L, have not spoken to 2 of my sisters for about 20 years, because my sisters would go to the pub for a drink, with mixed group of people.

Trust me, this guy would want to examine the bed sheets.

[joderv1]

What I did not say about my in-laws is they speak full English. His mother was brought up in the UK from a very young age and his father left Cyprus and was living in the UK up until 33 years ago. His parents met in the UK, got engaged and then came to Cyprus.

)

@ VP,

Well, this surely blows your theory out of the water. As you can see, many TC's get married to other nationalities, and it's not just Birkibrisli, that you always pick on. You just can't change some peoples 15th century mentality, that's all.

@ Pyro,

I have one of those 15th century mental cases, as a brother-in-law from Cyprus, living most of his life, in the UK. I also had one from Turkey, but he is history now.

The one in London, has a 26 year old son ( my nephew) , which he comes and goes as he pleases, and he also has a daughter (my niece) at 22, but has strict control over her. Even though they allow her to go out with FEMALE friends now and again, she is very much controlled. Couple of years ago, she was interested in a young British born TC, who had an ear ring, and wore a knitted hat, like the rappers do. The father told the young men, that he had to get rid of the ear ring and further more, there were to be no "fuki fuki". Needles to say, his friendship with my niece ended, within a month or so. Now they want to move to Cyprus, so that she is not too influenced by British "lose" Girls. I don't know if he knows, but there are about 60,000+ men in the "TRNC" that are looking for some "honey", and not necessarily for marriage.

That's why Shah is in the UK.

One more thing. This B-I-L, have not spoken to 2 of my sisters for about 20 years, because my sisters would go to the pub for a drink, with mixed group of people.

Trust me, this guy would want to examine the bed sheets.

You are right Kikapu. If they think that by bringing their daughter to Cyprus she is going to be 'safer' (if that is the right word) they have got it wrong. Some guys here are the same as others everywhere and they want one thing. Some girls give it too.

This is the 21st century and Cyprus is maybe not what it used to be with arranged marriages and no jiggy jiggy before marriage etc.

Jo

[Kikapu]

Hi Kikapu,

I really laughed when I read your questions to me and I am not uncomfortable answering. I have been honest up to this point.

Now not sure how you will take this but I met my husband in England. He left Cyprus when he was 18 and met me soon after. He told them about me and they asked him to choose them or me. He chose me. We have been together 13 years, but only married for 3 of those 13 and we had a child before marriage too.

No, I did not convert to Islam and there was a mention I do (not to my face though), but my husband never asked and to be honest they are hardly preaching muslims themselves i.e. fasting, praying 5 times a day etc.

No, there was no test. LOL.

Believe me they are not as strict as some Muslims, but they believe that their son should have married a Turkish Cypriot. As far as I know that is what it boils down to.

Jo

Hi Joderv1,

I'm glad I made you laugh. I almost feel like I know you, because you are so easy to talk to. I like the way you explain things, in a very rational way, so thank you for letting us into you life a little bit.

As VP said, you got yourself a real "lemons" for a parents in law. You're doing the right thing by moving. Be sure to send your kids to Turkish language school in the UK, so that they will always know their heritage, and visit with them, the whole island of Cyprus now and again, so that they know, that they are Cypriots, and that means the whole island, and not just the Northern part.

If it make you feel better, I also have one or two "lemons" in my family.

[joderv1]

Hi Joderv1,

I'm glad I made you laugh. I almost feel like I know you, because you are so easy to talk to. I like the way you explain things, in a very rational way, so thank you for letting us into you life a little bit.

As VP said, you got yourself a real "lemons" for a parents in law. You're doing the right thing by moving. Be sure to send your kids to Turkish language school in the UK, so that they will always know their heritage, and visit with them, the whole island of Cyprus now and again, so that they know, that they are Cypriots, and that means the whole island, and not just the Northern part.

If it make you feel better, I also have one or two "lemons" in my family.

It has been good to chat to you Kikapu. As I have said before I like this forum and it is nice to share things, hopefully not too much though.

My oldest daughter is doing very well with her Turkish. She picked it up fluently within 6 months and we are so proud. I will definately make sure that she does keep up her Turkish and that my youngest daughter will also learn it too.

I hope that maybe I can still learn. I believe learning a language is a good thing, especially for children at a young age.

I know that I am not the only one who has "lemons" in their family and it does make me feel better. I know others have had similar experiences and I am trying not to let it get to me too much, but sometimes it is hard. I still hear about them saying this and that about me and I get fed up.

I will come back to Cyprus (not sure when) and hopefully before I go I can explore the South side more too.

Anyway not long to go and we will be in the UK again. You never know we may move to another country again, where there is no family problems.

Jo

[BirKibrisli]

Have you thought about migrating to Australia,Jo???

With some luck we will get rid of this terrible conservative government here soon,and we will start letting in more people...

Go to Australia House when you get to London and they will tell you all you need to know. We can do with more sensible people like you and your husband here in Oz...

And the weather is much more pleasant here than in England...

[joderv1]

Have you thought about migrating to Australia,Jo???

With some luck we will get rid of this terrible conservative government here soon,and we will start letting in more people...

Go to Australia House when you get to London and they will tell you all you need to know. We can do with more sensible people like you and your husband here in Oz...

And the weather is much more pleasant here than in England...

Hi Birkibrisli,

I would love to move Australia. I have an Uncle and cousins in Victoria and there are a number of my fathers family there too.

My husband likes Florida and so do I. It is very difficult getting into the USA unless you have money. Once we have that we will attempt it.

Where are you in Oz? Did you have the terrible weather there recently?

Jo

[humanist]

[Pyr said]humanist,

too many ifs in your reply.
Lets pick one:No there are no Tc scholls for your children in Paphos.

Pyr like I said in my response I am not a Turkish Speaking Cypriot so a hypothetical question requires a particular response one that comes from empathy as I have no experience, of it.

The RoC then ought to begin introducing turkish speaking teachers in RoC shool so that Turkish Speaking Cypriot children can have access to education.

My personal stance on the education of all Cypriot children is that all three languages ought to be taught from primary school right through to University. I do not believe in segrataged schools. segragation breeds isolation and discrimination.

I also wish to say I am not politician that is not where my strength lies.