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I am convinced he is an idiot .......

Postby humanist » Sun Mar 18, 2007 2:44 am

LEFKOSA - Prime Minister of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (TRNC) Ferdi Sabit Soyer called on TRNC President Mehmet Ali Talat and the leader of the Greek Cypriot administration Tassos Papadopoulos to get together this weekend and begin talks.
Speaking on Turkish Cypriot Bayrak television channel (BTR), Soyer said the insistence of Papadopoulos in not meeting with President Talat was an attempt to kill talks between the two communities and emphasized the need for the dialogue process to begin for discussing how to deal with the subjects underlying the Cyprus issue.

Commenting on the "Lokmaci issue", Soyer said this was an important symbol and said the Greek Cypriots were left to demolish the wall as a result of the appropriate policies pursued by the TRNC.

Making reference to Greek initiatives to open a border gate in the Yesilirmak area, Soyer underlined discussions regarding the opening of other border gates before Lokmaci gate was opened were futile.


Is this contradictory or just dumb and stupid, lets meet, however, we wont do anything about Ledra Street. But we can ave a meeting so that we can just say to each other well we met, fuck the people that we are representing but we are going to be children and play games as opposed to co-orporate and solve the Cyprus problem so that both our communities could benefit in more than just one way. I got to say that in the past couple of weeks Talat has shown himself to be a silly little boy whose responses to serious matters have been that of a child..... Last week it was "why should I" remove soldiers from Ledra. After all that would be useful to the process we are trying to achieve. But if I keep the Cyprus issues unsolved I can enjoy the benefits of a so called President, feed my belly, live rich and let all the other fuckers wait for a solution. Talat you are disgrace to your people man.
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Postby kafenes » Sun Mar 18, 2007 2:58 am

Not just the rulers but I think the people don't want a solution either.
If all sides wanted a solution and unity then everyone should get together and march towards all the crossings and pull the barriers down and have a one big party. What will they do? arrest us all? or shoot us? A kind of revolution from both sides. Now that would be something. Oh I guess I can stop dreaming.
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Postby GAVCARoCOM » Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:12 am

Hello Humanist ,
I can understand ur anger but you should blame papadopulus as well because on the ledra door it will not be any soldiers but papadopulus asking all soldiers from nicosia has to go . And as you know Talat can not get this done because army will not listen . asmuchas he can do no soldiers will be on the door or near , it was on the newspaper today also he said on the newspaper they have to meet for solitions and not for the doors + after solition it will not be Turkish army in Cyprus.
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Postby T_C » Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:39 am

kafenes wrote:Not just the rulers but I think the people don't want a solution either.
If all sides wanted a solution and unity then everyone should get together and march towards all the crossings and pull the barriers down and have a one big party. What will they do? arrest us all? or shoot us? A kind of revolution from both sides. Now that would be something. Oh I guess I can stop dreaming.


Oh my god! That really would be something and if ever something like that was to happen I just hope I am there to be a part of it.

Forget these two fools anyways we should elect women as leaders and then watch how quick a solution comes about..what do you expect from men? Sooner or later they'll end up bringing the end of the world...:evil:
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Postby humanist » Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:41 am

Gav I am angry you are very correct, in the past when I felt that Papadopoulos was being a twat I called it so. In this case I think Talat is acting irresponsibly both for turkish speaking cypriot interests, greek speaking cypriot interests and the peace process. I refuse to to get into tatt for titt. When it is time to blame Papadopoulos I will right now Talat's insistence in maintaining troops in the area and not opening the crossing is hinderring any attempts for a solution, does not show cooperation, does not show willingness to solve the Cyprus problem, turkish cypriots are missing out on business and refugees ofcourse are fucked over agin in relation to return of property. So on one hand they are asking to meet and talk yet on the other hand they are not willing to participate in practical solutions.
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Postby GAVCARoCOM » Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:45 am

But as much as i know talat ready to open the doors without any army on the doors and they are cleaning the streets from the mines and TC side everything is ready waiting papadopulus.
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Postby humanist » Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:46 am

kafenes, I tottally get where you are coming from.

at least the greek speaking cypriots that I know have given up...... 32 years is a long time to wait for something. people just want to get on with their lives now and make better lives for themselves and their children
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Postby GAVCARoCOM » Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:48 am

and the most important thing that Papadopulos dont want to talk to talat re cyprus problem even talat asking him to meet . How something can happen about cyprus problem if they dont meet . Being honest Talat wants peace more then denktash and papadopulus and they souldnt miss this chance
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Postby GAVCARoCOM » Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:51 am

kafenes wrote:Not just the rulers but I think the people don't want a solution either.
If all sides wanted a solution and unity then everyone should get together and march towards all the crossings and pull the barriers down and have a one big party. What will they do? arrest us all? or shoot us? A kind of revolution from both sides. Now that would be something. Oh I guess I can stop dreaming.


In limassol i talk to many cypriots before annan plan and i didnt see anyone want solition because they are wealth is good but TCs i can not say same thing . I dont think any GC want to go north to live and any TC will go south to live because everyone tehy got their lifestyles already based on the areas where they live now.
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Postby humanist » Sun Mar 18, 2007 7:13 am

Gav I am not that convinced, wanting peace more than Dektas doesn't really mean much. My theory you either want peace and unity or you don't. If you do everything you act leads you there. It is not very difficult to withdraw troops if that is what you want. In this case it may be the case or it may not be. If Talat cannt act without the Turkish Army then he is restricted i can appreciate that circumstance on the other hand itf thr trnc is as independt as it beives itself to be then there is no excuse. if the first is the case then he needs to hold meetings with UN expressing his concerns and fear and seek refuge and security that would enable him to unify cyprus. he can choose to be the man who brought cyprus together or he can be the President that didn't do much.

By the way a feww moths ago there was a picture of talat Papadopoulos and Gambari I think it was where Mr Talat is laughing along with Papadop it was a great picture. Then I thought he was a nice guy because he was acting forward, however his comments about war re:- oil and now his insistence on keeping troops present is unacceptable and anti peace.
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