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10 Lies of Greece

Postby GAVCARoCOM » Fri Mar 16, 2007 4:21 pm

10 Biggest lies of Greece

To Vima newspaper from Greece declared the 10 biggest lies mentioned in the history books against the Ottoman Empire.

As in most of the Balkan countries, even in the European Countries, the history books read are full of heroic stories and myths. The biggest part of the history books is the revolt of Greece against the Ottoman Empire for getting its independence in 1821. Inspecting the history books full of heroic stories of the Greek people during the fighting period, TO VIMA newspaper published the "10 biggest lies" of Greece on the 185th Anniversary of its revolt against the Ottoman Empire. According to the research made by Andreas Pappas one of the authors of the newspaper, here are the Greek lies:

1st Lie: During the 400 years of Ottoman administration, Ottomans forced the Greek to accept Islam.

2nd Lie: Taken form their families by force, Christian children are forced to accept Islam and closed to Janissary Barracks.

3rd Lie: Greeks used to go to secret schools for learning their language and Christianity.

4th Lie: Greek Church fought hard against the Ottoman Empire.

5th Lie: Greek nation got its independence with a mutiny against the Ottoman Empire in 1821.

6th Lie: Thanks to the mutiny, Larissa (Central Greece) joined to Greek lands in 1881. Athens siege of the Ottoman Empire failed in 1897. Ottoman lands are shared with the Treaty of Sevres in 1920.

7th Lie: Only Greeks revolted against the Ottoman Empire.

8th Lie: Foreign countries supported Greeks because they liked them much.

9th Lie: Only Greeks lost their home.

10th Lie: Greeks emigrated from Anatolia to Greece are taken out of Hellenic lands during the First World War.
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Postby twinkle » Fri Mar 16, 2007 4:28 pm

Was the massacre at Chios a lie too???
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Postby Strahd » Fri Mar 16, 2007 4:34 pm

GAV all this might be true or might be false. The beauty of this is the fact that it is published by a Greek in one of the highest circulation Greek newspapers.

There is a movement in Greece by a few academics who have these ideas, however it is not yet very well documented and researched. This is the glory of Greece and freedom of speech. That people have the ability to publish their ideas freely.

Tell me now, what would happen if a Turkish academic or journalist was to publish something similar for the "official" history taught in Turkey or even in the "TRNC"...
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Postby karma » Fri Mar 16, 2007 4:39 pm

Strahd wrote:GAV all this might be true or might be false. The beauty of this is the fact that it is published by a Greek in one of the highest circulation Greek newspapers.

There is a movement in Greece by a few academics who have these ideas, however it is not yet very well documented and researched. This is the glory of Greece and freedom of speech. That people have the ability to publish their ideas freely.

Tell me now, what would happen if a Turkish academic or journalist was to publish something similar for the "official" history taught in Turkey or even in the "TRNC"...


He wld probably be refugee in Greece now :lol:
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Postby GAVCARoCOM » Fri Mar 16, 2007 4:43 pm

Journalist s job is this . Even you tell them hello they have to search and publish the truths without keeping side.
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Postby Strahd » Fri Mar 16, 2007 4:49 pm

GAVCARoCOM wrote:Journalist s job is this . Even you tell them hello they have to search and publish the truths without keeping side.


I agree but you still do not understand that by putting this down the only side you are doing harm is the Turks because it is obvious to the world that in Turkey and in extension to "TRNC" freedom of speech is not really practiced.
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Postby karma » Fri Mar 16, 2007 4:51 pm

11th Lie of Greece ;

"" Our Economy is getting better and better""
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Postby GAVCARoCOM » Fri Mar 16, 2007 4:55 pm

Strahd wrote:
GAVCARoCOM wrote:Journalist s job is this . Even you tell them hello they have to search and publish the truths without keeping side.


I agree but you still do not understand that by putting this down the only side you are doing harm is the Turks because it is obvious to the world that in Turkey and in extension to "TRNC" freedom of speech is not really practiced.


I dont know how its in Turkey but TRNC is ok about this. I saw many samples. And noone talk about TMT how many years now but in south EOKA still have celebrations every year .
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Postby Strahd » Fri Mar 16, 2007 5:18 pm

GAVCARoCOM wrote:
Strahd wrote:
GAVCARoCOM wrote:Journalist s job is this . Even you tell them hello they have to search and publish the truths without keeping side.


I agree but you still do not understand that by putting this down the only side you are doing harm is the Turks because it is obvious to the world that in Turkey and in extension to "TRNC" freedom of speech is not really practiced.


I dont know how its in Turkey but TRNC is ok about this. I saw many samples. And noone talk about TMT how many years now but in south EOKA still have celebrations every year .


We celebrate the first EOKA that fought for liberation of the island from the british.

Second you tell me that you can write an article on the armenian genocide at kibris and get away with it?? I am not asking here whether you believe it happened or not I am asking wether you can talk about it in public and in the media!
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Postby GAVCARoCOM » Fri Mar 16, 2007 5:37 pm

If you want to celebrate the liberation of the island from the british then thats fine but using EOKA name which is the biggest reason why TCs suffer between 1963-74 then its wrong.
Even in turkey many people publish whatever they want aslongas not lies. Armenian situation is compleatly different because it is not cofirmed yet internationnally.About Hirant Hink i saw many discussions even it was blaming police in turkish newspapers. Anyway Its nothing to do with TCs and in TRNC you can write whatever you like aslongas you have proof that its true. We dont have any problems with that.
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