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[Get Real!]

Sorry I was under the impression the RoC that the GC's represent was the same one from 1960? When did you declare it null&void?

On or off the record?

Might I remind that aside from the BENEFITS which your community so ardently demands there are also RESPOSIBILITIES towards the republic which you so conveniently forget/ignore!

[Get Real!]

Oh of course, now we "don't deserve" powersharing because we're so poor forgetting to mention that you've done your best to try limit us ecomonically since 1963, I'm glad you're here to set the record straight. Nearly every single sector that has led to GC prosperity has been external, tourists, shipping, banking/offshore etc.. infact even the reduction in the % of workforce in farming after 1974 had a positive impact after the short term shock so please stop talking about stagnation as if there is something in the TC makeup that is lazy and incapable.

What's in it for us baby? what do you think I am the Red Cross???

The only "trump card" you've got under your sleeve is a military "threat"!
Something that's losing value very rapidly these days...

[humanist]

[VP wrote]

live the nightmare you so comfortably avoid from the suburbs of some foreign land

what nightmare VP? I thought the trnc has been the saviour and for the benefit of turkish speaking cypriots

[Kikapu]

It appears that more and more "Cypriots" living abroad, thousands of miles away are telling us to jump into the fire without feeling the heat themselves. Surely those who live here should be listened to and their concerns taken into account. You have people who have not been to Cyprus for years upon years and have not seen at first hand the developments both north and south dictating to us that we are wrong and they are right, they know best and we know nothing. This is not right and Cypriots living abroad should show more understanding and respect towards us locals who stand to make the biggest mistake of our lives, thus live the nightmare you so comfortably avoid from the suburbs of some foreign land.

Sounds to me like, you got an "ear full" from the TC's living in the UK during your visit last week, that they want to see a Unified Cyprus.

"True Cypriots" are everywhere VP. We do not have to live in the shadows of the Turkish Military's Protection, to make our voices heard.

The fact that you don't want to hear it, it's another matter altogether.

[free_cyprus]

children children be good now we do not except turkish or greek flags in cyprus full stop we dont want thier education and their histroy books all we want is our freedom from slaver........... the language we speak should not devide us its when we atart with turkish cypriot and greek cypriot crap that devides us.............. ask your grandfathers ow many languages they speak and they will tell you they spoke greek and trukish its only a language. but this does not make us greeks and turks the only people that make us greeks and turks is when you confront yourselves and except the fact that your either a cypriot that speack turkish or greek or your turkish or greek full stop ...................... for those who are turkish cypriots and greek cypriots they are our worse enemy becouse they do not know that speaking a language does not make you part of the great nation of greece or turkey we are cypriots we speak their language thats it we have nothign else in common with them except the fact they enslaved us for centuries

[skipper]

It appears that more and more "Cypriots" living abroad, thousands of miles away are telling us to jump into the fire without feeling the heat themselves. Surely those who live here should be listened to and their concerns taken into account. You have people who have not been to Cyprus for years upon years and have not seen at first hand the developments both north and south dictating to us that we are wrong and they are right, they know best and we know nothing. This is not right and Cypriots living abroad should show more understanding and respect towards us locals who stand to make the biggest mistake of our lives, thus live the nightmare you so comfortably avoid from the suburbs of some foreign land.

Sounds to me like, you got an "ear full" from the TC's living in the UK during your visit last week, that they want to see a Unified Cyprus.

"True Cypriots" are everywhere VP. We do not have to live in the shadows of the Turkish Military's Protection, to make our voices heard.

The fact that you don't want to hear it, it's another matter altogether.

Kikapu, I can confidently say there are probably more right wing Denktas supporters in London then there are in the whole of cyprus. I was in London when Annan Plan version 1 came out and TC's there were up in arms as it was giving away to many concessions, infact members of the right wing UBP party who were in power where going to London trying and get their message against the AP for families to influence relatives back in Cyprus.

But I do agree with Viewpoint on this issue, plenty of TC's who are more than happy with the status quo come on holiday for a couple of weeks in august, moan that TC's are living in "heaven" and wonder why they would want to come an agreement with GC's and then go back to the UK and forget about it for another year.

[iceman]

There will be another war before the current 'TRNC' is ever recognised.

Ha ha ha...You lot make me laugh...war? what war? You lot don't have the bollox to fight re goumparo..
What is stopping you now? do us a favour..

[Get Real!]

There will be another war before the current 'TRNC' is ever recognised.

Ha ha ha...You lot make me laugh...war? what war? You lot don't have the bollox to fight re goumparo..
What is stopping you now? do us a favour..

You mean GC vs TC or GC vs (TC + T) ???

Surely you're not hiding behind Turkish skirt?

[skipper]

Oh of course, now we "don't deserve" powersharing because we're so poor forgetting to mention that you've done your best to try limit us ecomonically since 1963, I'm glad you're here to set the record straight. Nearly every single sector that has led to GC prosperity has been external, tourists, shipping, banking/offshore etc.. infact even the reduction in the % of workforce in farming after 1974 had a positive impact after the short term shock so please stop talking about stagnation as if there is something in the TC makeup that is lazy and incapable.

What's in it for us baby? what do you think I am the Red Cross???

What are you on about? We don't want anything from you, I'm just pointing out that nearly all economic growth you have attained has been due to the fact that you maintain the RoC from 1960, you then twisted that to some kind of demand from you for something, which is just a typical stereotype of TC's by GC's.

You're harping on about how due to your now increased economic position it should some how negate the political powersharing because we "dont deserve it", we've never asked for a slice of your cake infact we've wanted to make our own cake larger but you've done everything you can to make sure that does n't happen. It's the GC that want everything 100% unified but then go moan that under that unification we'ill get more than we deserve, dont you see the contradiction here? You then go on to say if TC's become economically more prosperous they won't want unification so its a complete no win senario.

The only "trump card" you've got under your sleeve is a military "threat"!
Something that's losing value very rapidly these days...

Again, where did this come into the conversion? did n't realise this had become a schoolkid playground argument.

[skipper]

Sorry I was under the impression the RoC that the GC's represent was the same one from 1960? When did you declare it null&void?

On or off the record?

How can there be on or off the record, every other GC post I have read has gone on about legality so tell me, legally does the GC's claim that the current RoC is the same one as of the 1960 constitution? it's a simple Yes or No question.

Might I remind that aside from the BENEFITS which your community so ardently demands there are also RESPOSIBILITIES towards the republic which you so conveniently forget/ignore!

Again, what benefits am I demanding? I'm talking about powersharing from 1960 and you're talking about how they should be negated due to your inreased wealth. Constitionally (according to you, the GC's) the powersharing is still in force so how can I be demanding something that is already there?