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skipper
you wrote

Besides, why divide us into cypriots and non-cypriots surely we're all human at the end of the day and national classification just leads to hatred and war.....................

well skipper since you said national clasification leads to devide and rule perhaps you should remind the turkish speaking and greek speaking people of cyprus of that . i do not take sides when it comes to cyprus , cyprus should have the right for self determination without hate this is my viev and people should be left to live in peace and enjoy all human rights. but how can we have any of that when everyone is shouting im turkish im greek there is more of us there is less of you waht is all that if its not called devide and rule. in my eyes theres no turks or greeks when it comes to cyprus we are just cypriots just becouse we speak one of the languages does not make us turkish or grek but this is where there is no education to feed the minds of cypriot people that they are enslaved to trukey and greece, and when will we be free to live in harmony and to enjoy the fruits and joys of cyprus that has been denied to us cypriots for thousands of yeas can you tell me that skipper without taking sides or telling me your roots lie in greece or turkey

[Get Real!]

Looks like we are left with no option but to stand up and fight for our rights. The referendum was a slap in the face for many TCs like me who thought they could unite with the GCs, little did we know that what are elders told us was correct you cannot trust them they will smile at your face and as soon as you turn your back they will shoot you.

GCs did have good intentions and were happy to offer their now democratic system and modern infrastructure to the TCs to live in but when TCs started talking about "power sharing", "veto power", and similar 1960s imbalanced and undemocratic crap that got us into trouble in the first place well that did it for most of us!

It's hard to convince the GCs that an 18% minority that has remained virtually stagnant, introduced thousands of full-blown Turks, and turned the North into an underworld, in the space of three decades, should be given power over something we worked our butts off so hard...

Sorry VP but the credentials aren't there...

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TCs have been trying for partition since the 50s. With the Annan plan their partition dream would come true and they would get EU and lots of money as a bonus.
Most of them voted yes, and most of those that rejected it were the settlers that were unsure if they would manage to stay in Cyprus or not.

Now when they saw that partition + EU + money bonus is not possible, they went back to their usual standard partition efforts.

Unfortunately the TCs choose to cooperate with the invaders and therefore their only destiny is that of the Turks of Crete. The minority of Turks of Crete also had the greediness and arrogance of TCs and they have oppressed the Cretans for centuries. But in the end they got what they deserved. If TCs do not stop the crimes and illegalities along with Turkey, then one day they will pay dearly for their crimes and arrogance.

The northern part of Cyprus is the homeland of 200.000 Greek Cypriots and just 50.000 TCs. The illegal occupation of a few decades will not change this fact. They can never Turkify our lands no matter how much they will try. All they can do is to keep their war against Cyprus until the day this war will end with the liberation of Cyprus.

So in short what you are saying is that if we do not do what you demand then you will attack us and wipe us out? Nothing new then.

[Viewpoint]

Looks like we are left with no option but to stand up and fight for our rights. The referendum was a slap in the face for many TCs like me who thought they could unite with the GCs, little did we know that what are elders told us was correct you cannot trust them they will smile at your face and as soon as you turn your back they will shoot you.

GCs did have good intentions and were happy to offer their now democratic system and modern infrastructure to the TCs to live in but when TCs started talking about "power sharing", "veto power", and similar 1960s imbalanced and undemocratic crap that got us into trouble in the first place well that did it for most of us!

It's hard to convince the GCs that an 18% minority that has remained virtually stagnant, introduced thousands of full-blown Turks, and turned the North into an underworld, in the space of three decades, should be given power over something we worked our butts off so hard...

Sorry VP but the credentials aren't there...

So what you are saying is come and live in a GC state as a minority? well forgive me for saying thanks but no thanks this will never happen. This is essentially where GCs go wrong, we are partners in Cyprus not just a numerical minority, we will not be governed by GCs alone or enter into an agreement where we will not be guaranteed our rights to BBF and political equality.

[Sotos]

TCs have been trying for partition since the 50s. With the Annan plan their partition dream would come true and they would get EU and lots of money as a bonus.
Most of them voted yes, and most of those that rejected it were the settlers that were unsure if they would manage to stay in Cyprus or not.

Now when they saw that partition + EU + money bonus is not possible, they went back to their usual standard partition efforts.

Unfortunately the TCs choose to cooperate with the invaders and therefore their only destiny is that of the Turks of Crete. The minority of Turks of Crete also had the greediness and arrogance of TCs and they have oppressed the Cretans for centuries. But in the end they got what they deserved. If TCs do not stop the crimes and illegalities along with Turkey, then one day they will pay dearly for their crimes and arrogance.

The northern part of Cyprus is the homeland of 200.000 Greek Cypriots and just 50.000 TCs. The illegal occupation of a few decades will not change this fact. They can never Turkify our lands no matter how much they will try. All they can do is to keep their war against Cyprus until the day this war will end with the liberation of Cyprus.

So in short what you are saying is that if we do not do what you demand then you will attack us and wipe us out? Nothing new then.

You attacked us and ethnically cleansed 200.000 GCs so why not to do the same to you?

[free_cyprus]

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cyprus belongs to the cypriots the north the south and the air space above lol it does not belong to greek cypriots or turkish cypriots....................... reasons are simple...............those who proclaim to be turkish or greek cypriots are traitors of cyprus not only that thay are the real couse of why cyprus is in such state today................................ wella ctualy nots not completely true becouse they put turkey greece and britain as guarantors for cyprus the three former occupiers of cyprus lol soo what does this tell us it tells us they put the fox to gourd the chickens............................................as long as people fo cyprus say they are greek cypriots and turkish cypriots there will always be division there will always be problems, but having said that it easy to give resposibility to the outsiders to control us i guess this comes from thousands of years of invasion and murder and rape and occupation, after all cyprus is an island of slaves so it seems its easier to stay as slaves then be free

[skipper]

TCs have been trying for partition since the 50s.

So? How long had the GC's been trying for enosis? Oh yes I forgot that was your right. Legally the UK could have partitioned the island if they wanted to.

With the Annan plan their partition dream would come true and they would get EU and lots of money as a bonus.
Most of them voted yes, and most of those that rejected it were the settlers that were unsure if they would manage to stay in Cyprus or not.

Now when they saw that partition + EU + money bonus is not possible, they went back to their usual standard partition efforts.

Oh sorry, I did n't realise the Ministry of Information had changed its mind on the 65% Yes vote. Previously we were being told that the only people voting yes were all settlers and the 35% no vote was being attributed to the "true TC's" who wanted a "truely unified cyprus" (tm), I guess thats all changed now sorry its hard to keep upto date these days.

Unfortunately the TCs choose to cooperate with the invaders and therefore their only destiny is that of the Turks of Crete. The minority of Turks of Crete also had the greediness and arrogance of TCs and they have oppressed the Cretans for centuries. But in the end they got what they deserved. If TCs do not stop the crimes and illegalities along with Turkey, then one day they will pay dearly for their crimes and arrogance.

Yes, indeed like the Greeks of Izmir payed dearly for the invasion by the Greek Army, what were they thinking? Surely they should have fought against the invading army but I guess according to your logic above they also got what they deserved. I'm assuming that us TC's wont "get what we deserve" in my lifetime, but should it happen then could you please identify yourself at the time so that I could atleast get whats coming to me by someone I know.

The northern part of Cyprus is the homeland of 200.000 Greek Cypriots and just 50.000 TCs. The illegal occupation of a few decades will not change this fact. They can never Turkify our lands no matter how much they will try. All they can do is to keep their war against Cyprus until the day this war will end with the liberation of Cyprus.

You mean like the liberation of Istanbul, sorry I forgot Constantinopole or infact we should consider the liberation of the whole of Anatolia, not Turkified at all. Do you really believe what you are actually writing?

[Viewpoint]

TCs have been trying for partition since the 50s. With the Annan plan their partition dream would come true and they would get EU and lots of money as a bonus.
Most of them voted yes, and most of those that rejected it were the settlers that were unsure if they would manage to stay in Cyprus or not.

Now when they saw that partition + EU + money bonus is not possible, they went back to their usual standard partition efforts.

Unfortunately the TCs choose to cooperate with the invaders and therefore their only destiny is that of the Turks of Crete. The minority of Turks of Crete also had the greediness and arrogance of TCs and they have oppressed the Cretans for centuries. But in the end they got what they deserved. If TCs do not stop the crimes and illegalities along with Turkey, then one day they will pay dearly for their crimes and arrogance.

The northern part of Cyprus is the homeland of 200.000 Greek Cypriots and just 50.000 TCs. The illegal occupation of a few decades will not change this fact. They can never Turkify our lands no matter how much they will try. All they can do is to keep their war against Cyprus until the day this war will end with the liberation of Cyprus.

So in short what you are saying is that if we do not do what you demand then you will attack us and wipe us out? Nothing new then.

You attacked us and ethnically cleansed 200.000 GCs so why not to do the same to you?

Ho Sotos, you seem to think just one fine sunny day we did all this, please dont hide behind your finger we are all to blame, what everyone is looking for is the best way out of this mess and just joining a GC state is not right for us, sorry.

[Sotos]

Greece recognized Turkey but we will never recognize any crap illegal state of yours on OUR land you stupid thieve!

[Get Real!]

Greece recognized Turkey but we will never recognize any crap illegal state of yours on OUR land you stupid thieve!

Ebiasanton ta nevra!!