Candounas and Demitriades on Way Forward
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| bill cobbett wrote: |
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| Oh and the mass applications is something that I already wrote and I said that it was a gamble. I think you accused me of being drunk Bill, or am I mistaken? |
No mate/matess you're not mistaken, and if you look back think you'll find posted in support of ... " UnCompromising Patriots" getting together in pilot cases to the Turkish Scammission, so still think you've been drinking.
...and see that Halil's been Eating again. |
Candounas and Demitriades were asking unbelievable money from the GC's....... no more comment from me ....hoping persones will speak all about it .
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| Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 7:05 pm |
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What will be truly telling are the TC test cases at the ECHR. If the RoC cannot resolve their process then similar issues will be piled up before the RoC.
Being aware of the impact of the judgement on the level of court progress that can be made going forward by the RoC and there-by a weakening of the RoC position to deliver what it has to this day promised, the focus on Varosha is to try and prise it from the negotiating table by hoping Turkey will conceed that area to diminish the burden given it is not inhabited.
If breaking Turkey due to monetary responsibilities is the goal, then expect similar responsibilities borne by the RoC.
It will still come down to property exchange as the most expedient and least costly for all parties and yield the broadest resolution of the issue. Some cases would be difficult but the majority could expect a reasonable satisfactory outcome.
Get this issue behind us and let's move on. The world is evolving so should Cyprus. Extending the issue, which is the aim of the lawyers (more work load = more fees), simply means more missed opportunities to elevate the standard of living of the majority.
One aspect of the article that I would be curious about is the number of cases. If 170,000 GCs were displaced and assuming an average of 4-5 persons per household, the total number of displacement cases that could be brought to bear would be around 40,000 to be heard by the TRNC. What chance 10,000 cases could be bought to bear on the IPC, what proportion on the Varosha area specifically (in addition, Varosha is different in status to the rest of the North). Considering all the excitement of taking cases to the ECHR amounted to 1,400 odd, how many could be bought to bear on the IPC practically. In addition, there are issues of owners passing away and their children not being able to have the same compensation as the persons for whom the property was a primary residence, the impact becomes more muted.
I am thinking out aloud, and really trying to guage what such a course followed would mean. As you can probably tell by now, I think we all should just move on as I think all the belligerent actions cost all of us more in the long run.
Any intelligent thoughts welcome as I could be off base. Get Real, B25, Oracle, Pipi, and other idiots I don't value your thoughts so no input would be nice. |
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| Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 7:28 pm |
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| Acikgoz wrote: |
What will be truly telling are the TC test cases at the ECHR. If the RoC cannot resolve their process then similar issues will be piled up before the RoC.
Being aware of the impact of the judgement on the level of court progress that can be made going forward by the RoC and there-by a weakening of the RoC position to deliver what it has to this day promised, the focus on Varosha is to try and prise it from the negotiating table by hoping Turkey will conceed that area to diminish the burden given it is not inhabited.
If breaking Turkey due to monetary responsibilities is the goal, then expect similar responsibilities borne by the RoC.
It will still come down to property exchange as the most expedient and least costly for all parties and yield the broadest resolution of the issue. Some cases would be difficult but the majority could expect a reasonable satisfactory outcome.
Get this issue behind us and let's move on. The world is evolving so should Cyprus. Extending the issue, which is the aim of the lawyers (more work load = more fees), simply means more missed opportunities to elevate the standard of living of the majority.
One aspect of the article that I would be curious about is the number of cases. If 170,000 GCs were displaced and assuming an average of 4-5 persons per household, the total number of displacement cases that could be brought to bear would be around 40,000 to be heard by the TRNC. What chance 10,000 cases could be bought to bear on the IPC, what proportion on the Varosha area specifically (in addition, Varosha is different in status to the rest of the North). Considering all the excitement of taking cases to the ECHR amounted to 1,400 odd, how many could be bought to bear on the IPC practically. In addition, there are issues of owners passing away and their children not being able to have the same compensation as the persons for whom the property was a primary residence, the impact becomes more muted.
I am thinking out aloud, and really trying to guage what such a course followed would mean. As you can probably tell by now, I think we all should just move on as I think all the belligerent actions cost all of us more in the long run.
Any intelligent thoughts welcome as I could be off base. Get Real, B25, Oracle, Pipi, and other idiots I don't value your thoughts so no input would be nice. |
What was the TC % in Varosha? |
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| Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 7:52 pm |
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Bill Posted:
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http://www.cyprus-mail.com/cyprus/turkey-bluffing-about-property/20100314
He argued that one way of calling their bluff was for Famagusta refugees to apply en masse to the property commission in the north. |
Wasent it that sort of action that got you lot into this shit? 
But hey keep going, why should we stop you now 
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| Unfortunately, the debate has avoided the main point of the ECHR decision, degenerating instead into a blame game. Some have blamed the decision on the lawyer/politicians who encouraged refugees to file over a thousand recourses to the European Court and thus prompting it to propose the setting up of the Immovable Property Commission (IPC) in the north |
http://www.cyprus-mail.com/opinions/our-view-futile-blame-game-over-refugee-property-claims/20100313 |
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| Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 8:03 pm |
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The varosi element is one that I identified, I even mentioned it to Deniz yesterday. If Turkey is serious about the IPC it may have to be given to the GCs to uphold the ECHRs ruling.
There is only one way in which Turkey may (and that is dubious) be able to hold the Integretty of the IPC and not return the GC to Varosi and that is the question of prior ownership of the Vakif foundation... I dont know how that will play out. |
Merhaba DTA. My son-in-law met Ipek last week. They are still in business it seems.  Sorry for misleading you. |
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| Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 10:56 pm |
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| B25 you are making yourself look more stupid than normal, try for a change to respond in a civilized fashion. |
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| Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 10:59 pm |
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| B25 wrote: |
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Any intelligent thoughts welcome as I could be off base. Get Real, B25, Oracle, Pipi, and other idiots I don't value your thoughts so no input would be nice. |
I am not here to be valued nor judge by a shit faced fucking Turk, so piss off mate.
You are invader occupiers get out of Cyprus. And take the cheapskates with you.
The peace loving GCs do not need your cancer so hop it, capish! |
You are a disgusting individual and if you think that you are repressenatative of the large majority of decent G/Cs you are mistaken plonker .
I bet Greece is your motherland !!! |
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| Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 11:23 pm |
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| B25 wrote: |
| miltiades wrote: |
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Any intelligent thoughts welcome as I could be off base. Get Real, B25, Oracle, Pipi, and other idiots I don't value your thoughts so no input would be nice. |
I am not here to be valued nor judge by a shit faced fucking Turk, so piss off mate.
You are invader occupiers get out of Cyprus. And take the cheapskates with you.
The peace loving GCs do not need your cancer so hop it, capish! |
You are a disgusting individual and if you think that you are repressenatative of the large majority of decent G/Cs you are mistaken plonker .
I bet Greece is your motherland !!! |
Milti, your input is of no interest to me so Phuck off you silly old poustogero.
Go play the big I am on the NCFP forum, they just love you over there.
Hade asirktir.
You are more disgusting then I, as you posses a much wider, deeper, more colourful sewer vocabulary than I ever could, so to me it's pot, kettle, black.
I suppose I should show you some respect even for your age, but when you just come on with you outbursts knowing Sweet FA about whats been said you deserve everything you get, gero or no gero.
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Just another post from eoka-crap member. Can smell you all the way from london. |
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| Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 11:39 pm |
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| YFred wrote: |
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| miltiades wrote: |
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Any intelligent thoughts welcome as I could be off base. Get Real, B25, Oracle, Pipi, and other idiots I don't value your thoughts so no input would be nice. |
I am not here to be valued nor judge by a shit faced fucking Turk, so piss off mate.
You are invader occupiers get out of Cyprus. And take the cheapskates with you.
The peace loving GCs do not need your cancer so hop it, capish! |
You are a disgusting individual and if you think that you are repressenatative of the large majority of decent G/Cs you are mistaken plonker .
I bet Greece is your motherland !!! |
Milti, your input is of no interest to me so Phuck off you silly old poustogero.
Go play the big I am on the NCFP forum, they just love you over there.
Hade asirktir.
You are more disgusting then I, as you posses a much wider, deeper, more colourful sewer vocabulary than I ever could, so to me it's pot, kettle, black.
I suppose I should show you some respect even for your age, but when you just come on with you outbursts knowing Sweet FA about whats been said you deserve everything you get, gero or no gero.
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Just another post from eoka-crap member. Can smell you all the way from london. |
Kahbe eokacının danisgasıdır. Böyle köpeklere cevab verilmemelidir.
Ofcourse ADMIN turns a blind eye - for he passes himself of as GC. |
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| Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 11:47 pm |
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| Tks for the solidarity against lunacy. |
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