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I sympathise with TCs but...

Postby Malapapa » Wed Dec 23, 2009 6:57 pm

...what do you want Cypriots in the free part of Cyprus to do?

TCs say they find themselves between a rock and a hard place, untrusting of the Republic of Cyprus, unhappy with accepting "minority status", unwilling to risk becoming "second class citizens in their own homeland".

In the north meanwhile Turkey is eroding their culture, their education and career prospects, their secular traditions, their salaries, their very right to call themselves Cypriots. This is all very sad.

But what do you expect Cypriots free from Turkey's iron grip to do?

• jeopardize hard fought freedoms secured by EU membership?
• give away their human right to properties belonging to them in the north?
• accept derogations to EU law which no other EU citizens would countenance?
• relinquish the principle of universal suffrage?
• open the door for Turkey to interfere in the domestic affairs of the whole island?
• give Turkey's military the right to intervene once more, as it did in 1974 with disastrous consequences?

Do you honestly expect any free Cypriot in their right mind to vote "Yes" to this?
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Postby FragnaticDeath » Wed Dec 23, 2009 7:49 pm

Of course we won't accept. The people who vote yes to this are low IQ based people which all the countries in the world have in the countries. They just simply don't understand.

Well said malapapa
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Postby Malapapa » Wed Dec 23, 2009 8:31 pm

FragnaticDeath wrote:Of course we won't accept. The people who vote yes to this are low IQ based people which all the countries in the world have in the countries. They just simply don't understand.

Well said malapapa


Thanks. And if the people who were to vote "Yes" to this are mentally deficient, what of the people in the north who are expecting this to happen? Who are demanding that the international community pressure free Cypriots to make this happen?

Perhaps they should rename the "TRNC" and call it CCL - Cloud Cuckoo Land.
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Postby Me Ed » Wed Dec 23, 2009 8:45 pm

Well ... exactly like us GCs, its all self inflicted.
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Postby insan » Wed Dec 23, 2009 8:52 pm

Malapapa wrote:
FragnaticDeath wrote:Of course we won't accept. The people who vote yes to this are low IQ based people which all the countries in the world have in the countries. They just simply don't understand.

Well said malapapa


Thanks. And if the people who were to vote "Yes" to this are mentally deficient, what of the people in the north who are expecting this to happen? Who are demanding that the international community pressure free Cypriots to make this happen?

Perhaps they should rename the "TRNC" and call it CCL - Cloud Cuckoo Land.


First of all malapapa, i consider ur evaluation of Annan Plan as very exagerated interpretations... don't forget that u r not the centre of the ultimate truth... Therefore, insulting people who voted "yes" to Annan Plan as "mentally deficient", or "low iq" only shows ur iiliteracy and immature...

Before u talk abt democracy, human rights and freedom of speech u have to learn it first by respecting and not insulting who interpreted Annan Plan different than how u interpreted... otherwise just put forward ur opinions and interpretations; ask people what their counter-arguements r but NEVER insult people that have different opinions and interpretations on issues u differ... OK?

Is there something called freedom of insulting people in ur "free areas" just because they have divergences?
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Postby paliometoxo » Wed Dec 23, 2009 8:54 pm

those who voted yes are just stupid
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Postby paliometoxo » Wed Dec 23, 2009 8:55 pm

probably did not even know they where voting for partition because the turks say two states under one state and call that bull crap of partition re unification

bannana plan was bs
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Postby insan » Wed Dec 23, 2009 9:02 pm

paliometoxo wrote:probably did not even know they where voting for partition because the turks say two states under one state and call that bull crap of partition re unification

bannana plan was bs



Probably u didn't know what u were voting, eh? Probably u were wrong, they were right... or u claim u r among the cleverest people of GCs? :lol:
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Postby Hermes » Wed Dec 23, 2009 9:07 pm

Very well put, Malapapa. It's impossible to conceive of a settlement that would diminish what the Greek Cypriots have fought to achieve. And the EU has made it clear that they will not accept permanent derogations from EU law in any solution. This is a big shift since the Brits and Yanks tried to foist the Annan Plan upon us. Everything has changed since Cyprus became an EU member. I think this is why many T/Cs can't countenance the idea of a unified Cyprus. They want to be members of the EU but they don't really want to abide by its rules and they want to keep hold of their ill-gotten gains in the north. They not only want their cake they want to bloody well eat it too. Cheeky sods!
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Postby Malapapa » Wed Dec 23, 2009 9:07 pm

insan wrote:First of all malapapa, i consider ur evaluation of Annan Plan as very exagerated interpretations...


First of all insan, I was not talking about the Annan proposal which is now ancient history. I was talking about what is happening now. Please pay attention before grabbing the wrong end of the stick, OK?

insan wrote:don't forget that u r not the centre of the ultimate truth... Therefore, insulting people who voted "yes" to Annan Plan as "mentally deficient", or "low iq" only shows ur iiliteracy and immature...


I wasn't. Don't put words into my mouth.

insan wrote:Before u talk abt democracy, human rights and freedom of speech u have to learn it first by respecting and not insulting who interpreted Annan Plan different than how u interpreted... otherwise just put forward ur opinions and interpretations; ask people what their counter-arguements r but NEVER insult people that have different opinions and interpretations on issues u differ... OK?


No it's not OK, because I write one thing and you read another.

insan wrote:Is there something called freedom of insulting people in ur "free areas" just because they have divergences?


No. Now get off your high-horse and read what I actually said and respond to that.
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