Turkish Airlines is seeking suitably qualified Commanders/Captains
08.01.2009
General Requirements:
A minimum of 8,000 hours total flying time
A minimum of 3,000 hours in command as Commander/Captain of B737-NG or A319/320/321 type aeroplanes
A minimum of 4,000 hours flown in multi-crew, multi engine jet MTOW of 50 tonnes or greater
Must be a current Commander/Captain
First Officers, qualified as Cruise Captains, does not meet the Direct Entry Captain requirements
JAA ATPL(A)
ICAO English Language Proficiency Level 5 is required, Level 4 may be considered for future considerations
Age limitation between 40 - 59
Perhaps, Paphitis might be interested.!
Re: Need Commanders/Captains!
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:11 pm
Paphitis
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Kikapu wrote:
Quote:
Turkish Airlines is seeking suitably qualified Commanders/Captains
08.01.2009
General Requirements:
A minimum of 8,000 hours total flying time
A minimum of 3,000 hours in command as Commander/Captain of B737-NG or A319/320/321 type aeroplanes
A minimum of 4,000 hours flown in multi-crew, multi engine jet MTOW of 50 tonnes or greater
Must be a current Commander/Captain
First Officers, qualified as Cruise Captains, does not meet the Direct Entry Captain requirements
JAA ATPL(A)
ICAO English Language Proficiency Level 5 is required, Level 4 may be considered for future considerations
Age limitation between 40 - 59
Perhaps, Paphitis might be interested.!
Do you think I stand a chance of getting the job?
Can you imagine Captain Paphitis of Turkish Airlines Midnight Express Flight 666 to a place that officially does not exist?
It would make an excellent Crew Resource Management (CRM) case study no doubt, just like KLM 4805 in Tenerife.
How do you think the dialogue would go?
I love how they use the term "Commander" in their advert for Pilots. Its a term I have not heard of before and is rather authoritarian and against good CRM or shallow command gradient principles. KLM in Tenerife rings a bell!
Re: Need Commanders/Captains!
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:29 pm
Kikapu
vip
Joined: 16 Apr 2006
Posts: 9075
Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Quote:
Turkish Airlines is seeking suitably qualified Commanders/Captains
08.01.2009
General Requirements:
A minimum of 8,000 hours total flying time
A minimum of 3,000 hours in command as Commander/Captain of B737-NG or A319/320/321 type aeroplanes
A minimum of 4,000 hours flown in multi-crew, multi engine jet MTOW of 50 tonnes or greater
Must be a current Commander/Captain
First Officers, qualified as Cruise Captains, does not meet the Direct Entry Captain requirements
JAA ATPL(A)
ICAO English Language Proficiency Level 5 is required, Level 4 may be considered for future considerations
Age limitation between 40 - 59
Perhaps, Paphitis might be interested.!
Do you think I stand a chance of getting the job?
Can you imagine Captain Paphitis of Turkish Airlines Midnight Express Flight 666 to a place that officially does not exist?
It would make an excellent Crew Resource Management case study no doubt, just like KLM 4805 in Tenerife.
How do you think the dialogue would go?
Quote:
Can you imagine Captain Paphitis of Turkish Airlines Midnight Express Flight 666 to a place that officially does not exist?
Turkish Airlines is seeking suitably qualified Commanders/Captains
08.01.2009
General Requirements:
A minimum of 8,000 hours total flying time
A minimum of 3,000 hours in command as Commander/Captain of B737-NG or A319/320/321 type aeroplanes
A minimum of 4,000 hours flown in multi-crew, multi engine jet MTOW of 50 tonnes or greater
Must be a current Commander/Captain
First Officers, qualified as Cruise Captains, does not meet the Direct Entry Captain requirements
JAA ATPL(A)
ICAO English Language Proficiency Level 5 is required, Level 4 may be considered for future considerations
Age limitation between 40 - 59
Perhaps, Paphitis might be interested.!
Do you think I stand a chance of getting the job?
Can you imagine Captain Paphitis of Turkish Airlines Midnight Express Flight 666 to a place that officially does not exist?
It would make an excellent Crew Resource Management (CRM) case study no doubt, just like KLM 4805 in Tenerife.
How do you think the dialogue would go?
I love how they use the term "Commander" in their advert for Pilots. Its a term I have not heard of before and is rather authoritarian and against good CRM or shallow command gradient principles. KLM in Tenerife rings a bell!
Paphitis and pilot is enough to scare the passengers (I mean a pilot from Paphos).No need to refer to midnight express flight etc- the birthplace of the pilot would be enough!!!!!
Re: Need Commanders/Captains!
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:57 pm
Paphitis
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Joined: 21 May 2006
Posts: 8286
Location: True Cypriot, exiled with Aphrodite and awaiting the real and betrayed CYPRIOT PHOENIX TO RISE......
EPSILON wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Quote:
Turkish Airlines is seeking suitably qualified Commanders/Captains
08.01.2009
General Requirements:
A minimum of 8,000 hours total flying time
A minimum of 3,000 hours in command as Commander/Captain of B737-NG or A319/320/321 type aeroplanes
A minimum of 4,000 hours flown in multi-crew, multi engine jet MTOW of 50 tonnes or greater
Must be a current Commander/Captain
First Officers, qualified as Cruise Captains, does not meet the Direct Entry Captain requirements
JAA ATPL(A)
ICAO English Language Proficiency Level 5 is required, Level 4 may be considered for future considerations
Age limitation between 40 - 59
Perhaps, Paphitis might be interested.!
Do you think I stand a chance of getting the job?
Can you imagine Captain Paphitis of Turkish Airlines Midnight Express Flight 666 to a place that officially does not exist?
It would make an excellent Crew Resource Management (CRM) case study no doubt, just like KLM 4805 in Tenerife.
How do you think the dialogue would go?
I love how they use the term "Commander" in their advert for Pilots. Its a term I have not heard of before and is rather authoritarian and against good CRM or shallow command gradient principles. KLM in Tenerife rings a bell!
Paphitis and pilot is enough to scare the passengers (I mean a pilot from Paphos).No need to refer to midnight express flight etc- the birthplace of the pilot would be enough!!!!!
I know a CyAir Paphian pilot. Chances are you were one of his passengers in the past.
Personal note to Paphitis: Tell CyAir to look out for Epsilon on all flights. If on board, then create Pilot Induced Turbulence....
Re: Need Commanders/Captains!
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 1:11 pm
Kikapu
vip
Joined: 16 Apr 2006
Posts: 9075
Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Quote:
Turkish Airlines is seeking suitably qualified Commanders/Captains
08.01.2009
General Requirements:
A minimum of 8,000 hours total flying time
A minimum of 3,000 hours in command as Commander/Captain of B737-NG or A319/320/321 type aeroplanes
A minimum of 4,000 hours flown in multi-crew, multi engine jet MTOW of 50 tonnes or greater
Must be a current Commander/Captain
First Officers, qualified as Cruise Captains, does not meet the Direct Entry Captain requirements
JAA ATPL(A)
ICAO English Language Proficiency Level 5 is required, Level 4 may be considered for future considerations
Age limitation between 40 - 59
Perhaps, Paphitis might be interested.!
Do you think I stand a chance of getting the job?
Can you imagine Captain Paphitis of Turkish Airlines Midnight Express Flight 666 to a place that officially does not exist?
It would make an excellent Crew Resource Management (CRM) case study no doubt, just like KLM 4805 in Tenerife.
How do you think the dialogue would go?
I love how they use the term "Commander" in their advert for Pilots. Its a term I have not heard of before and is rather authoritarian and against good CRM or shallow command gradient principles. KLM in Tenerife rings a bell!
It does give it that "superior authoritarian" feel to it, just as the case you mentioned with the Captain of the KLM crash with Pan Am in Tenerife. I would not be surprised if most of the Turkish Airlines crashes in the past would not have been avoided if the Turkish Airline’s Captains (Commanders) were not seen by their co-pilots as "do not question your commander, just follow orders" attitude, even when the co-pilots could see mistakes being made by their "Commander".! Very dangerous in the cockpit of any airliner with such attitudes, no doubt.!
Re: Need Commanders/Captains!
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 1:24 pm
EPSILON
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Joined: 18 May 2007
Posts: 2573
Location: ATHENS
Paphitis wrote:
EPSILON wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Quote:
Turkish Airlines is seeking suitably qualified Commanders/Captains
08.01.2009
General Requirements:
A minimum of 8,000 hours total flying time
A minimum of 3,000 hours in command as Commander/Captain of B737-NG or A319/320/321 type aeroplanes
A minimum of 4,000 hours flown in multi-crew, multi engine jet MTOW of 50 tonnes or greater
Must be a current Commander/Captain
First Officers, qualified as Cruise Captains, does not meet the Direct Entry Captain requirements
JAA ATPL(A)
ICAO English Language Proficiency Level 5 is required, Level 4 may be considered for future considerations
Age limitation between 40 - 59
Perhaps, Paphitis might be interested.!
Do you think I stand a chance of getting the job?
Can you imagine Captain Paphitis of Turkish Airlines Midnight Express Flight 666 to a place that officially does not exist?
It would make an excellent Crew Resource Management (CRM) case study no doubt, just like KLM 4805 in Tenerife.
How do you think the dialogue would go?
I love how they use the term "Commander" in their advert for Pilots. Its a term I have not heard of before and is rather authoritarian and against good CRM or shallow command gradient principles. KLM in Tenerife rings a bell!
Paphitis and pilot is enough to scare the passengers (I mean a pilot from Paphos).No need to refer to midnight express flight etc- the birthplace of the pilot would be enough!!!!!
I know a CyAir Paphian pilot. Chances are you were one of his passengers in the past.
Personal note to Paphitis: Tell CyAir to look out for Epsilon on all flights. If on board, then create Pilot Induced Turbulence....
ok as from now i will request Cypus airways to present be birth certificates of the pilots before i enplane.
Re: Need Commanders/Captains!
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 1:36 pm
Paphitis
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Joined: 21 May 2006
Posts: 8286
Location: True Cypriot, exiled with Aphrodite and awaiting the real and betrayed CYPRIOT PHOENIX TO RISE......
Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Quote:
Turkish Airlines is seeking suitably qualified Commanders/Captains
08.01.2009
General Requirements:
A minimum of 8,000 hours total flying time
A minimum of 3,000 hours in command as Commander/Captain of B737-NG or A319/320/321 type aeroplanes
A minimum of 4,000 hours flown in multi-crew, multi engine jet MTOW of 50 tonnes or greater
Must be a current Commander/Captain
First Officers, qualified as Cruise Captains, does not meet the Direct Entry Captain requirements
JAA ATPL(A)
ICAO English Language Proficiency Level 5 is required, Level 4 may be considered for future considerations
Age limitation between 40 - 59
Perhaps, Paphitis might be interested.!
Do you think I stand a chance of getting the job?
Can you imagine Captain Paphitis of Turkish Airlines Midnight Express Flight 666 to a place that officially does not exist?
It would make an excellent Crew Resource Management (CRM) case study no doubt, just like KLM 4805 in Tenerife.
How do you think the dialogue would go?
I love how they use the term "Commander" in their advert for Pilots. Its a term I have not heard of before and is rather authoritarian and against good CRM or shallow command gradient principles. KLM in Tenerife rings a bell!
It does give it that "superior authoritarian" feel to it, just as the case you mentioned with the Captain of the KLM crash with Pan Am in Tenerife. I would not be surprised if most of the Turkish Airlines crashes in the past would not have been avoided if the Turkish Airline’s Captains (Commanders) were not seen by their co-pilots as "do not question your commander, just follow orders" attitude, even when the co-pilots could see mistakes being made by their "Commander".! Very dangerous in the cockpit of any airliner with such attitudes, no doubt.!
Absolutely! The KLM/Panam Air Disaster would have been avoided if the Captain had listened to his Flight Engineer's query and uneasiness. 583 people killed due to pilot ego.
The only place that would use such terminology, and for good reason, is the Military. Hence the reason why Military Pilots need to be retrained into a civilian capacity. CRM was introduced specifically to help Military Pilots make this transition to a multi crew environment.
