Rezoning of TC land.
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| Tim Drayton wrote: |
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| Afrika newspaper reports that "according to news that has leaked out from reliable Greek Cypriot sources", there are plans to revise legislation concerning sales by their legitimate owner of TC-owned property in the south, so that all TCs regardless of where they live and whether they have emigrated or not will be permitted to sell their property. |
My word.
How accurate was my post, Tim?
I can read their minds. |
If this news is true, the change is going to be introduced regardless of whether there is an agreement or not. |
It gets better and better. Thanks Tim, you are a gent. |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:11 pm |
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| denizaksulu wrote: |
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| What I heard is that they will make it easier for TCs to sell their properties in the free areas. |
I would have thought that the RoC would encourage ( TC selling their land to GCs) that years ago. Why now?
About this thread, I think someone has got the wrong end of the stick. |
They just realized that its against EU rules that TC's are not allowed to sell their land. Especially if they are RoC citizens.
It's racist, and sooner or later EU will clobber the RoC. |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:27 pm |
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| denizaksulu wrote: |
| Sotos wrote: |
| What I heard is that they will make it easier for TCs to sell their properties in the free areas. |
I would have thought that the RoC would encourage ( TC selling their land to GCs) that years ago. Why now?
About this thread, I think someone has got the wrong end of the stick. |
Since this thread is full of "hearsays", let me tell you what I heard couple of days ago (really). I heard that the RoC and the "trnc" were starting to "collect" TC land in the south and GC land in the north respectively. I can only imagine, that this will be used as the basis to draw the new Federal state lines. The RoC will buy the TC land and the "trnc" will start re-claming GC land that they gave away to the TC's and settlers, and GC land that was bought on the cheap. Once again, I can only imagine this will be used to draw the new state lines. If I hear anything more, I'll let you know, because a distant family member made a sudden trip to the north from the UK the day after I got this information. My guess is, that the "trnc" is trying to "collect/confiscate" as much GC property as possible to make the "trade" with the RoC.! |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:30 pm |
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| YFred wrote: |
| denizaksulu wrote: |
| Sotos wrote: |
| What I heard is that they will make it easier for TCs to sell their properties in the free areas. |
I would have thought that the RoC would encourage ( TC selling their land to GCs) that years ago. Why now?
About this thread, I think someone has got the wrong end of the stick. |
They just realized that its against EU rules that TC's are not allowed to sell their land. Especially if they are RoC citizens.
It's racist, and sooner or later EU will clobber the RoC. |
I think you are missing the point. There is probably a political aim behind this move. If a significant number of TCs start selling their land, this will pull the rug from beneath the feet of the "exchange property" argument. You can't have your cake and eat it. |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:34 pm |
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| Tim Drayton wrote: |
| YFred wrote: |
| denizaksulu wrote: |
| Sotos wrote: |
| What I heard is that they will make it easier for TCs to sell their properties in the free areas. |
I would have thought that the RoC would encourage ( TC selling their land to GCs) that years ago. Why now?
About this thread, I think someone has got the wrong end of the stick. |
They just realized that its against EU rules that TC's are not allowed to sell their land. Especially if they are RoC citizens.
It's racist, and sooner or later EU will clobber the RoC. |
I think you are missing the point. There is probably a political aim behind this move. If a significant number of TCs start selling their land, this will pull the rug from beneath the feet of the "exchange property" argument. You can't have your cake and eat it. |
That has been so since 1960. That was the secret plan to remove the TCs from Cyprus.
I personally will not sell any time.
I thought the percentages of jurisdiction negotiated will refer to 1963 as opposed to current ownership! GCs will not be able to pull the wool over Talat’s eyes that easily. |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:43 pm |
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| Kikapu wrote: |
| denizaksulu wrote: |
| Sotos wrote: |
| What I heard is that they will make it easier for TCs to sell their properties in the free areas. |
I would have thought that the RoC would encourage ( TC selling their land to GCs) that years ago. Why now?
About this thread, I think someone has got the wrong end of the stick. |
Since this thread is full of "hearsays", let me tell you what I heard couple of days ago (really). I heard that the RoC and the "trnc" were starting to "collect" TC land in the south and GC land in the north respectively. I can only imagine, that this will be used as the basis to draw the new Federal state lines. The RoC will buy the TC land and the "trnc" will start re-claming GC land that they gave away to the TC's and settlers, and GC land that was bought on the cheap. Once again, I can only imagine this will be used to draw the new state lines. If I hear anything more, I'll let you know, because a distant family member made a sudden trip to the north from the UK the day after I got this information. My guess is, that the "trnc" is trying to "collect/confiscate" as much GC property as possible to make the "trade" with the RoC.! |
Hi Kiks.
But the north had 'confiscated' GC land when they declared their independence. They said in their constitution that all GC land belonged to the new 'republic'. |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 4:10 pm |
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| I think its the other way round. GCs are attemting to enhance their position. They left it too late. They should have done it years ago. |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 5:06 pm |
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| denizaksulu wrote: |
| Kikapu wrote: |
| denizaksulu wrote: |
| Sotos wrote: |
| What I heard is that they will make it easier for TCs to sell their properties in the free areas. |
I would have thought that the RoC would encourage ( TC selling their land to GCs) that years ago. Why now?
About this thread, I think someone has got the wrong end of the stick. |
Since this thread is full of "hearsays", let me tell you what I heard couple of days ago (really). I heard that the RoC and the "trnc" were starting to "collect" TC land in the south and GC land in the north respectively. I can only imagine, that this will be used as the basis to draw the new Federal state lines. The RoC will buy the TC land and the "trnc" will start re-claming GC land that they gave away to the TC's and settlers, and GC land that was bought on the cheap. Once again, I can only imagine this will be used to draw the new state lines. If I hear anything more, I'll let you know, because a distant family member made a sudden trip to the north from the UK the day after I got this information. My guess is, that the "trnc" is trying to "collect/confiscate" as much GC property as possible to make the "trade" with the RoC.! |
Hi Kiks.
But the north had 'confiscated' GC land when they declared their independence. They said in their constitution that all GC land belonged to the new 'republic'. |
Yes Deniz, and now they are going to start taking it back from the TC's and the settlers, because it does "belong to the new republic" and not the people of the north. The "constitution" of the north can be what every it is decided in a very short time, so lets not put too much importance to what that "constitution" says. It is hardly a sacred document. It was nothing but a licence to steal the GC's property and sell it to the foreigners and whom ever else wanted to buy. That market is now dried up so it is time to take back the GC properties to use it in an exchange to form the new state lines.. The point is, the whole GC property thing in the north was a sham and that the north is holding stolen property as proven in the courts where the original owners have rights, and as soon as the legal opinion on the Orams case becomes law, it will be one more nail into the "trnc coffin" in trying to keep them, specially if they ever want to be part of the EU, and my guess is, the "trnc" knows that the Orams legal opinion will become law soon, therefore, they may be trying to be proactive before it happens. I don't really know, but will find out more soon. I'm just speculating like everyone else right now. |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 5:19 pm |
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Hmmm. Taking it out of the left pocket and putting it into the right pocket. That about sums it up. Poor sods.
Thanks K. |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 3:16 pm |
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| Apart from Yfred, none of you have answered my queston. I can assure you I have not made this up (that doesn't mean it isn't made-up) - I was told it by someone who has lived in RoC since 1985 and lives across the road from TC land now being farmed. The farmer was told he may have to move out but will probably be able to rent it back from the TC owner who might have liked to sell it for development, but now won't be able to. |
What you are now saying, above, that one farmer told some other person yackity yackity gossip ... is a far cry from the general opening statement which you initially made ....
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I have recently heard that TC land in the RoC is being rezoned as "Zero". This means no planning permission will be granted on it - effectively, after reunification (as if), TCs will get much of their land back but it will be worthless to them or anyone else as no-one could (re)develope it.
Any truth in this? |
Your lack of morals has been displayed, and your worries may well increase, but you should not have associated yourself with occupied land in the first place.....
Let this be a lesson to anyone else who still thinks there is some get-out-clause and they can purchase in the occupied territory ... Here is a man (or mouse), clearly on the brink of despair, at what he has done! |
What has my original post got to do with men, mice, morals or any of the other ramblings of yours? I asked a question and you didn't answer it. Also, wherabouts in my posting did you clearly detect "despair"? |
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