Warning To Travellers To The North
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| Tim Drayton |
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| BirKibrisli wrote: |
| I heard that 40% of the trnc is military area and, hence, off limits to everyone else....Can anyone confirm this????? |
A long time ago now when I was living in Turkey one of my Turkish mates was doing his military service in Cyprus, and when I went on a trip to Cyprus somebody gave me the number of the base he was at so that I could pay him a visit.
I made some inquiries when I got to Cyprus, and was told to get the bus to a place called Turunçlu (Strongylos). I went there and showed my peice of paper to somebody at the military facility there. They told me I needed to go to the next village, Paşaköy (Asha). Entering the village, there was another military camp and, upon making inquiries there, I was told to try to the camp at the other end of the village. I did this, and they said I should go to the base in Aslanköy (Angastina). I made my way up there and found my mate, who was on guard duty at the entrance.
This was my second ever day in Cyprus, and I can remember asking myself what kind of place this was with a Turkish military camp attached to every damn village. |
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 3:53 pm |
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| BirKibrisli |
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| Tim Drayton wrote: |
| BirKibrisli wrote: |
| I heard that 40% of the trnc is military area and, hence, off limits to everyone else....Can anyone confirm this????? |
A long time ago now when I was living in Turkey one of my Turkish mates was doing his military service in Cyprus, and when I went on a trip to Cyprus somebody gave me the number of the base he was at so that I could pay him a visit.
I made some inquiries when I got to Cyprus, and was told to get the bus to a place called Turunçlu (Strongylos). I went there and showed my peice of paper to somebody at the military facility there. They told me I needed to go to the next village, Paşaköy (Asha). Entering the village, there was another military camp and, upon making inquiries there, I was told to try to the camp at the other end of the village. I did this, and they said I should go to the base in Aslanköy (Angastina). I made my way up there and found my mate, who was on guard duty at the entrance.
This was my second ever day in Cyprus, and I can remember asking myself what kind of place this was with a Turkish military camp attached to every damn village. |
Well.....Tim....There are some 80,000 TCs left in Cyprus,and there are at least 300,000 settlers....I think they will soon need to increase the number of Turkish troops to 50,000,just to keep the peace between the TCs and the settlers...   |
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 4:02 pm |
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| Kifeas |
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| Tim Drayton wrote: |
This was my second ever day in Cyprus, and I can remember asking myself what kind of place this was with a Turkish military camp attached to every damn village. |
It is called "a country stolen from another people," hence the need to hold on to it so tightly and strongly! Why don't do they do the same in Turkey, in which case they would have needed 8 million soldiers (instead of 0.8 they currently do,) if for an area equal to only less than 0.5% of Turkey (occupied Cyprus) they need 40 thousand ones? They do it in Cyprus, because they understand that it is a place which does not truly belong to them, but was illegally usurped from others, and that makes them feel so uncomfortable, even in the face of a small GC army of only 12 thousand men. |
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 4:52 pm |
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Maybe they fear 12,000 GC men can fight with the strength and will of 8 Million Turks .... After all, when viruses infect your body they have to outnumber your cells several thousand-fold  |
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 5:26 pm |
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| umit07 |
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| Kifeas wrote: |
| Tim Drayton wrote: |
This was my second ever day in Cyprus, and I can remember asking myself what kind of place this was with a Turkish military camp attached to every damn village. |
It is called "a country stolen from another people," hence the need to hold on to it so tightly and strongly! Why don't do they do the same in Turkey, in which case they would have needed 8 million soldiers (instead of 0.8 they currently do,) if for an area equal to only less than 0.5% of Turkey (occupied Cyprus) they need 40 thousand ones? They do it in Cyprus, because they understand that it is a place which does not truly belong to them, but was illegally usurped from others, and that makes them feel so uncomfortable, even in the face of a small GC army of only 12 thousand men. |
Small Army  , I bet you that's not the idea in your mind while your oiling the old G3 at home. Small army . |
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| Re: Warning To Travellers To The North | |
| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 6:24 pm |
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| EPSILON |
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Dutch seek information about tourist arrests
By Nathan Morley
DUTCH diplomats are urgently looking into reports that two of their citizens have been arrested by Turkish Cypriot police in Famagusta.
The two men, who are understood to be on a package holiday, were arrested yesterday for allegedly taking photographs near several abandoned hotels in the Varosha district of Famagusta.
Despite being sealed off by wire fencing, the area is popular with tourists who often take photographs of the decaying buildings from a nearby beach.
Varosha, which has been a ghost town since 1974, is occupied by Turkish troops and used as a military base.
A spokesman for the Dutch Embassy in Nicosia told the Cyprus Mail that they were aware of the arrests and were “not prepared to discuss or make comment on the case at this point.”
However, a spokesman for the Dutch Foreign Ministry speaking from Amsterdam, confirmed that the men had been detained and that the Netherlands government was seeking information from the Turkish Cypriots.
“We actually know very little about this incident at the moment, we are trying to look further into the situation and discover what is actually happening on the ground,” he said.
Media in northern Cyprus reported last night a police investigation has been launched, while the cameras of the two men, aged 26 and 34, have been confiscated.
Several Turkish Cypriot radio channels claimed that the men have denied taking photographs inside a restricted military zone – a serious offence in the heavily fortified north.
An assessment of the men’s photographs is being conducted by experts.
Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2008 |
http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.php?id=41666
To people travelling to the north, this is the kind of rubbish you might encounter. Is it worth the risk?? While there are satellites which will photograph even a fly sitting on the Famagusta fence and these people go round arresting tourists with holiday snapshots. Could this be some kind of a bribing scam? |
it was 1979, a couple of British were taking photos in "Vorios Polos" check point. I personally arrested them with a film full of National Guard interest points. It seems that Gcs waked up and they taking their chances about the Turks military positions.!!!!
i was always like the people having a billion in bank , appearing to not have money to buy milk for their childs!!!this is proficiency - some will not understand. |
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 6:41 pm |
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| Anywhere you go in the world if you take pictures in a miltary sealed area like Maras you will be arrested dont act as if this anything new or exclusive to the TRNC. You morons love to basj Turks and TCs at every opportunity. If GCs allowed us to stand on our own two feet economically then we maybe able to turn around and say to Turkey hold on a moment these GCs may have a point on certain issues and move gradually away from dependence on Turkish support and closer towards wanting unification but GCs are so blind they are unable to see reality and cut off their nose despite their face. You can place a saddle on a donkey ("RoC") but it doesnt make it a race horse (EU). |
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:18 pm |
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| bill cobbett |
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For those, like me, who prefer to do their spying from the comfort of a home office without fear of unwaranted arrest in the Police State. Here is what I believe to be Occupied Famagusta on Google Earth.
Let's see if we can find some army camps of the Turkish Occupation Army elsewhere.... 
bill c. ...armchair spy
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:33 pm |
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| bill cobbett |
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...oh, in the meantime, here's a couple of photos of Occupied Famagusta.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:39 pm |
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| Gonna be a big rebuilding project. |
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