The Fall of the Turkish Empire ....
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Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 12:59 am |
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Too many things seem strange here ... headscarved girls, Erdogan to visit, and so soon after the trials ...
Grim toll as Turkey building collapsesR
Independent: Friday, 1 August 2008
We have been informed that 16 students died and 27 were injured. We think that there are still four or six more children under the rubble," Atalay told reporters at the scene.
Around 50 people, female students and teachers, were in the building when it collapsed from the gas explosion, local residents told Reuters.
The dormitory, flattened like a house of cards, was in the province of Konya and was being used for students aged eight to 16 who were taking part in a course of Islamic study.
Merve Avci, a 13-year-old headscarved student who suffered slight injuries, told reporters she had smelled gas coming from downstairs to the upper floors, and then felt the explosion.
"I was in the part of the building which didn't collapse with five of my friends immediately after the explosion, and we felt flames rising from the downstairs to upper floors," she said, according to Anatolian news agency. "We shouted for them to save us," she said, according to NTV broadcaster.
Anatolian said the building belonged to a religious foundation. Turkish media said the school was most likely illegal because Koran courses outside the control of the state's education authorities are prohibited in Turkey.
Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan was due to visit the village later.
At the scene, dozens of emergency rescue workers wielding pick axes and hammers dug at the rubble with the assistance of a powerful mechanical digger. Local residents were also helping dig with their bare hands.
Television footage also showed injured girls being carried from a minibus into a hospital in a nearby town. The only structure left standing was a shell of one side of the building with some beds visible, with bed sheets still on them.
Medical rescue teams were at the scene and had pulled out one of three girls they had established contact with under the rubble.
"We are hearing voices. I believe those inside the rubble will be saved," Balcilar village mayor Mehmet Demirgul told NTV broadcaster.
"We think the collapse was caused by a gas canister explosion in the building, given the burns on the injured," Konya health service official Galip Sef said, according to Anatolian.
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Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 7:18 am |
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| miltiades |
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Religion is the perpetual poison fed to people in order to rape their minds , and make them wear head scarves !!! And long beards too !!
Show me a nation where religious fervour rules and I will show you a backward nation stuck in the middle ages.
Man , Yes , Woman , Yes , Children Yes Yes , the creation of woman and man not the creation of Father Xmas.
Turkey will go down the drain if religion overcomes common sense and pushes Turkey in the arms of the Islamists .The army will not permit it , we wonder what awaits Turkey in the near future , does not look good! |
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Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 8:27 am |
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[quote="Oracle"]Too many things seem strange here ... headscarved girls, Erdogan to visit, and so soon after the trials ...
[color=darkblue][b][size=24]Grim toll as Turkey building collapses[/size]R
Independent: Friday, 1 August 2008
We have been informed that 16 students died and 27 were injured. We think that there are still four or six more children under the rubble," Atalay told reporters at the scene.
Around 50 people, female students and teachers, were in the building when it collapsed from the gas explosion, local residents told Reuters.
The dormitory, flattened like a house of cards, was in the province of Konya and was being used for students aged eight to 16 who were taking part in a course of Islamic study.
Merve Avci, a [/color][size=18][color=red]13-year-old headscarved student [/color][/size][color=darkblue]who suffered slight injuries, told reporters she had smelled gas coming from downstairs to the upper floors, and then felt the explosion.
"I was in the part of the building which didn't collapse with five of my friends immediately after the explosion, and we felt flames rising from the downstairs to upper floors," she said, according to Anatolian news agency. "We shouted for them to save us," she said, according to NTV broadcaster.
Anatolian said [/color][color=red][size=18]the building belonged to a religious foundation[/size][/color]. [color=darkblue]Turkish media said the school was most likely illegal because Koran courses outside the control of the state's education authorities are prohibited in Turkey.
Prime Minister Tayyip [/color][size=18][color=red]Erdogan was due to visit the village later[/color][/size]. [color=darkblue]
At the scene, dozens of emergency rescue workers wielding pick axes and hammers dug at the rubble with the assistance of a powerful mechanical digger. Local residents were also helping dig with their bare hands.
Television footage also showed injured girls being carried from a minibus into a hospital in a nearby town. The only structure left standing was a shell of one side of the building with some beds visible, with bed sheets still on them.
Medical rescue teams were at the scene and had pulled out one of three girls they had established contact with under the rubble.
"We are hearing voices. I believe those inside the rubble will be saved," Balcilar village mayor Mehmet Demirgul told NTV broadcaster.
"We think the collapse was caused by a gas canister explosion in the building, given the burns on the injured," Konya health service official Galip Sef said, according to Anatolian.
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Are you gloating or full of sympathy towards the victims. Oh no,,, just look at the title of the thread........  |
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Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 9:50 am |
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| come on now Deniz...you cannot stop her wishing & dreaming.. |
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Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 10:19 am |
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| miltiades |
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| iceman wrote: |
| come on now Deniz...you cannot stop her wishing & dreaming.. |
She can dream as much as she wants , she ain't having me !  |
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Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 10:30 am |
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| miltiades wrote: |
| iceman wrote: |
| come on now Deniz...you cannot stop her wishing & dreaming.. |
She can dream as much as she wants , she ain't having me !  |
More stormy waters lie ahead. Turkey has seen nothing yet. I bet, that the Turkish Army is developing it's plans for a future coup scenario as we speak!!  |
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Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 11:36 am |
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| Paphitis wrote: |
..More stormy waters lie ahead. Turkey has seen nothing yet. I bet, that the Turkish Army is developing it's plans for a future coup scenario as we speak!!  |
I don't think the Turkish Generals could have sent a stronger message to Erdogan as to what they intend to do with subversive religious infiltration of their pseudo-secular state .... and still manage to fool their supporters like the two that have posted, wishing it is an accident and not by design.
The school was illegal and due a visit by its supporter Erdogan later that day.
Only semi-imbeciles can fail to see a connection, and even then, the semi-imbeciles would be ones with their heads buried in the sand.
Yes it is the innocents that suffer with these tactics. It is my feeling they are victims of Turkish Politics and not an untimely and unfortunate explosion. |
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Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 11:43 am |
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Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 11:53 am |
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| Oracle wrote: |
| Paphitis wrote: |
..More stormy waters lie ahead. Turkey has seen nothing yet. I bet, that the Turkish Army is developing it's plans for a future coup scenario as we speak!!  |
I don't think the Turkish Generals could have sent a stronger message to Erdogan as to what they intend to do with subversive religious infiltration of their pseudo-secular state .... and still manage to fool their supporters like the two that have posted, wishing it is an accident and not by design.
The school was illegal and due a visit by its supporter Erdogan later that day.
Only semi-imbeciles can fail to see a connection, and even then, the semi-imbeciles would be ones with their heads buried in the sand.
Yes it is the innocents that suffer with these tactics. It is my feeling they are victims of Turkish Politics and not an untimely and unfortunate explosion. |
Basically, the Kemalists have once again conducted a coup by stealth. I mean what a coincidence that Erdogan was due to visit. It is definitely a very strong message delivered against the Islamists. My feelings still remain. I feel that it is still only the beginning, and the Islamic masses will not lie down, thus engaging further action from the Kemalists and the Turkish Army. Turkey at the very least is due for a real coup, but this time the Islamists will engage, potentially creating a civil war. This is in actual fact America's and NATO's worst nightmare, and this is the reason why they are trying to get a non European nation into the EU. It is about time people realised that the EU and Turkey are like chalk and cheese. Turkey's EU entry is nothing but a dream. |
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Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 1:51 pm |
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| Civil war in Turkey? A nation of 70 million and 775 000 square kilometers? Who would fight whom and where? Not likely. It would only happen if the army splits and fight among themselves ant that is not at likely. |
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